jsong56 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 on your practice file on the std breaks skipless electro loop (also on the new gamblin petes) whats the scratch u done at 6:33 to 6:50??? how did u do it?? ive heard ruck do em on the knitting factory dvd to. any help would be appreciated, thanks heaps! your tha man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 *** EDIT EDIT EDIT *** its actually done at 6:43 to about 6:50 !!! sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iexist Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 what practice file? i wanna hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 iexist: well the one i mentioned above? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeriveOne Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 post it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denio Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 he means the jan 2001 12 min practice the scratch is some tear crab variation me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 yeh it sounds like some tear flare variation? which variation dee?it sounds crazy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denio Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 fdw tear and then a crab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Nah, no tears in there Denio. J, sorry to say dude, I don't generally like to break down cuts. If you can't work out what I was doing, that's a good thing. Mission accomplished! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 That's just mean-spirited, Dee! Most scratchers moved away from the 'cover up the labels' and 'keep your cuts secret' mentalaty a long time ago. It's one of the main reasons Qbert -a personal hero of both you and I, became so respected. Show some love! (or perhaps he just can't remember.... ha ha ha. I can't remember what I was doing four years ago either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakule Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 i couldnt give a shit, but i do have to agree with liam there...i heard those files a long time ago and it is suprising they still get such mad props, but really they're fucking excellent and no-ones grabbing TT's by the balls n doin too much more...have heard some pretty impressive shit from uk heads - quest n square 1 at whuts barb q last year were insane, kper posted the files a while ago, they were as close to a next level i've heard (for want of a better term)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Hey, go practice and figure shit out, that's what I say. And that's what I did. You ever see me asking someone how to do a cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savwar Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 "from uk heads ----- square 1 at whuts barb q last year were insane" ahem... irish head... word we gotta hold on to what we've got...it doesn't make difference if we... etc savlon vige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 "from uk heads ----- square 1 at whuts barb q last year were insane" ahem... irish head... word we gotta hold on to what we've got...it doesn't make difference if we... etc savlon vige<{POST_SNAPBACK}>haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 cool cool, dont necessarily agree but i can respect that dee. can u give me a clue?? crabs or double clicks?are u double timing the hand motion or single timing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 a good clue would be listening to the scratch and trying to replicate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbay Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 a good clue would be listening to the scratch and trying to replicate it<{POST_SNAPBACK}> good idea! thats partly how i taught myself to scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I don't mean to sound rude, honestly, but it seems that DJ's are spoon-fed these days, especially with stuff like Q-Bert's DIY, etc. Back when I was starting out there was no video's, or very few, and they never explained "advanced" techniques such as flares. Take a look at something like Turntable Wizardry Volume 1 (if you can find it) and you'll see Q and all those guys doing much more advanced techniques and scratches in their individual showcases than they were explaining in the tutorial sections. Nevertheless, this forced me to really try and work stuff out, and at the end of the day I'm glad it worked out like that. I was forced to get the basics solid, such as chirps, transformers, tears, stabs, etc -- the stuff that all combo's are built on. Now with the Internet becoming huge and easily accessible to most people, plus video's of top scratch DJ's sharing their knowledge, many people appear to have have lost the ability to build a solid foundation, and most importantly, their own style. Why are so many DJ's sounding the same these days? They all wanna sound like D-Styles, mainly. Even Q-Bert! Why? Probably because he has style! Seriously though, let's not turn scratching into fast food. If we avoid breaking down signature cuts, and keep trying to work things out by ourselves, we encourage creativity, and through this new things are born. It's fair enough being influenced by something, but try to express that influence in your own way. The crab was inspired by the twiddle, which was inspired by the 2-click flare orbit. The story behind that is Q-Bert was watching DJ Excel do the twiddle scratch, and from there he expanded on it and added two extra fingers, which then became the crab scratch. The reason why Excel came up with the twiddle is because he thought that's how the 2-click orbit was being done, so through trying in our own ways to break something down without being spoon-fed we come up with new techniques, and those unique techniques become part of your style, your signature sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbay Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 well said dee.. and the green thing rides off into the sunset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakule Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 "from uk heads ----- square 1 at whuts barb q last year were insane" ahem... irish head... word we gotta hold on to what we've got...it doesn't make difference if we... etc savlon vige<{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL i understand, i from Cicilinovo and i repreesent, yes my friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruxism Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 hmmm, the thing that brought me to digital vertigo was the fact that i thought i'd found a pretty amazing community where people didn't mind sharing the wealth of knowledge. Dee, not feeling the whole, "i learnt everthing the hard way, now it's your turn" attitude. Much respect, you did it your way, without the videos and the internet, but times have changed. My dad always tells me he walked bare foot in the snow for 5 miles to get to school every day, but he's never once wished it on me. U dig? Sure, we're all learning the same techniques, but it's how you flip it that matters. Anyone who plays the guitar plays it the same way, with the same set of techniques, but there will only ever be one jimi hendrix. so, in my humble opinion, i say we all share everything we ever learn, every new type of technique we think of, because if we do that, then this whole turntable thing is only going to go forward. we aren't going to all sound the same, because, everyone's zigzag, flare etc, has a different sound, and it's putting it in the right context that's the skill. Peace out all, Love the site everyone, keep sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I agree with you bruxism. Each to their own though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 hmmm, the thing that brought me to digital vertigo was the fact that i thought i'd found a pretty amazing community where people didn't mind sharing the wealth of knowledge. It was the promise of the secret porn section that did it for me. I still aint found that shit. Steve, you holdin out on me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Nah it's still there mate. There's only straight porn in there though so I didn't think you'd be bothered about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Ahh. Cool. That's ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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