$a!n+ Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 What do you guys see the BPM range differnces is on different tables with different pitch. For ex. If you have a 95 BPM record playing a 0% what BPM can we get to pitched all the way up and all the way down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Is this a trick question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I'm shocked that you'd even ask this! Joke post, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryan Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I'm shocked that you'd even ask this! Joke post, right? Gaybe aint no joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaterNob Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Surely the BPM stretch is relative to the true BPM of the song. Speeding up a 90bpm song by 1% would lead to a smaller overall increase in bpm than say a 110bpm song with a 1% pitch increase. So, in conclusion, I'm not sure what you're getting at! Can you explain what you mean a bit more thoroughly dood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 dare you to post that question on asisphonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Lol. Gabe. If you pitch up a 95bpm track by 50% it will go up by 50% of 95bpm which is 47.5 BPM. Thus making it go to 132.5BPM. Was it a joke post??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnice Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 thats the pitch not the speed though adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaterNob Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 A +8 pitch adjustment on a turntable increases the speed of the platter rotation by 8 revolutions per minute. So..........if your table is set to 45 at 0 and the BPM of the tune is 95 and you were to set the pitch adjustment to +8 the increase in BPM would be worked out as follows: (bpm) / (rpm) * (pitch increase) 95 / 45 * 8 = 16.888888888888888888888888888889 So, the BPM of the tune played at +8 is 111.88888888888888888888888888889 I take it that this is what you're getting at Gabe? pz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 The pitch control does not work on an RPM basis - it is purely a % increase in speed.So a 95BPM tune at +8% is therefore running at 95*1.08=102.6 BPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2k Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 A +8 pitch adjustment on a turntable increases the speed of the platter rotation by 8 revolutions per minute. Not true. that would only be true if your turntable turned at 100rpm at 0% pitch. it speeds it up by 8% of 33.3rpm or 8%of 45rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaterNob Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Shows how much I know! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaterNob Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 PS. DJ's wear vests! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 BPM is not really a big deal when you play music perfectly quantized at 130bpm. That's what I do. Makes things a lot easier. Gives me more time to make pretend EQ adjustment moves when I'm dj'ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foodstamps Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Is this a trick question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$a!n+ Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Not a trick question really. Just wondering how everybody understands and applies the bpm to pitch translation. Helps me and other people underatand better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas pete Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 i thought i understood the question but now i have no clue at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airnino Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 The pitch control does not work on an RPM basis - it is purely a % increase in speed. So a 95BPM tune at +8% is therefore running at 95*1.08=102.6 BPM. word - not that tricky. the easiest example would be a record with 100 bpm at pitch +/- 0%. so this record will run on 92 bpm at pitch -8% and on 108 bpm at + 8%; so a record with 50 bpm at pitch +/- 0% would be running on 46 bpm at pitch -8% and on 54 at pitch +8% etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djFatNipples Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 i aint gonna figure out 8 or 10% pitch adjustment...but i always figured a 100 bpm record bumped up 50% speed wisewill equal 200 bpm.a 100 bpm track pitched down 50% should kick the track at 50 bpm.50% +/- speed adjustment doubles or halves the bpm.and all should be able to be mixed together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2k Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 i aint gonna figure out 8 or 10% pitch adjustment...but i always figured a 100 bpm record bumped up 50% speed wisewill equal 200 bpm.nope, it would be 150bpm a 100 bpm track pitched down 50% should kick the track at 50 bpm.yes 50% +/- speed adjustment doubles or halves the bpm.no it adds or subtracts half of the original bpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygon Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 heres the equations to work out how much shift you need Record1 = aRecord2 = b (b-a)/a *100 so if you had record1 at 80bpm and record 2 at 75bpm (70-80)/80*100= -6.25% so if record a was already at +4% you would have to move record b pitch down to -2.25% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2k Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 From now on I'm gonna always take a calculator when I play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airnino Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 ^^word x2k that's what i was going to say. we should let vestax know that the new 09 should have a bpm counter + a calculator built in... for real i just mix/ match records by ear (feeling). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas pete Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 right i got bored and made a lovely excel spread sheet for you who still dont know whats going on! http://www.sendspace.com/file/8skavc put the bpm of your first record in the first box and then your pitch range (put 8 in this box if your on technics) then it will calculate the max and min bpm you can get. then on track 2 side put in the bpm of the track your gonna mix and it should calculate how much you have to adjust the pitch. fin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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