Originals vs repress etc

[doppelkorn]

I've got a shitload of worse ones since then actually.

 

Chris's was top.

[doppelkorn]

Part 2: coming in your ears.

 

So all semantic shift is driven by humans, and the reasons for it are numerous. The wikipedia page below has lots of for details. Often the change is based on metaphor. Here the concept of a sexual assault rape has deemed similar enough to a general overpowering, beating or abusing (of whatever person or object) to warrrant use in this way.

 

Obviously this is a really common type of shift.

 

Question: do you agree that this type of semantic shift is driven by deliberate human action and is of the metaphor type on Blank's 1998 list?

[DJ Rock Well]

Part 2: coming in your ears.

 

So all semantic shift is driven by humans, and the reasons for it are numerous. The wikipedia page below has lots of for details. Often the change is based on metaphor. Here the concept of a sexual assault rape has deemed similar enough to a general overpowering, beating or abusing (of whatever person or object) to warrrant use in this way.

 

Obviously this is a really common type of shift.

 

Question: do you agree that this type of semantic shift is driven by deliberate human action and is of the metaphor type on Blank's 1998 list?

 

Just when I thought this thread was back on track, you had to steer it back to surprise sex.

[djdiggla]

^^Of course he did. And he spelled "cumming" wrong. I figured all that time you spend on that hack b0ard you'd have seen that pun a kilometer away. (See? That's how it's done).

 

Part 2: coming in your ears.

So all semantic shift is driven by humans, and the reasons for it are numerous. The wikipedia page below has lots of for details. Often the change is based on metaphor. Here the concept of a sexual assault rape has deemed similar enough to a general overpowering, beating or abusing (of whatever person or object) to warrrant use in this way.

Obviously this is a really common type of shift.

Question: do you agree that this type of semantic shift is driven by deliberate human action and is of the metaphor type on Blank's 1998 list?

 

First off, you are making the assumption that rape is violent. You can have sex with someone against their will and it be not violent... what if they are drugged, drunk, minor, etc etc. So you're whole issue is frankly invalid.

 

As for the question: Generally yes, but sometimes no. Also the metaphor example is crap. A computer mouse is a metaphor for a rodent? DERRRP.

[doppelkorn]

Metaphorical use of language is quite widespread. The computer mouse example is valid because you're using the concept of a mouse (in its physical form) and applying that to an unnamed new concept (the computer mouse). It's called a mouse because it looks like an (animal) mouse, basically, yet it isn't one. That's a pretty textbook use of metaphorical language use.

 

This metaphorical use of language happens all the time. If you say "she's a witch" you're saying that she shares some characteristics of a witch, in this case some undesireable ones, but you're not saying she casts spells or has supernatural powers. It's an interesting area of pragmatic research as to what mechanisms govern how we understand this kind of language use but the basic principle is that you're saying "this concept is similar in some ways to another one."

 

With this rape example, some of the concept of rape is carried across into the new meaning. I didn't actually mention the violence part so I don't know what you're getting at but sexual assualt rape implies forcefully imposing one's will on another person who has not consented to something. It's understandable how that can easily be shifted to mean "beat (in sport)". Sexual assualt rape very often also implies some kind of violence or ravaging so it's again easy to see how this could be carried over to mean "abuse" or "treat violently to obtain something".

 

If you think that the rape example is not a case of metaphorical semantic shift, what kind is it? You can pick off Black's list or invent your own category.

[Steve]

If you want to talk about this, start a new thread. Don't continue this discussion in this one.

[supacuts]

I think one should cherish the original and ruin the repress so if you keep the OG purely for listening to, the fact of whether they are the same or different in sound quality is moot.