$a!n+ Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 So my PnG has been feeling sluggish. I took it apart and by-passed the Circuit Board (as Dub7en advised). The PCB byass is easy and can be down with a switch in the stantons and a easy unplug and plug in on anything else. Well I also cut regular. I opened up the fader realized the distance the fader contacts cut in on each side were different. I cpuld tell by the fader wear and dirt smudges. So I clean it up filpped it around and put it back in. I have to run it Hamster to cut reglular, But since I flipped the fader and by-passed the PCB the cut in is right of the wall. Sharp too. Just thought I'd share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_impact Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 yeah i did that too when i first bought my sa-5. Had it for about 2 1/2 months now, i lubed them as well aye but im sure i put too much of that cailube ish on. Now it sounds like my x-fader is bleeding hard out. I opened it up again and tidied it up but it still does this. I dunno what else i can do to get rid of this, can't be fucked already coz i only had it for 2 1/2 months or can it?... shucks :s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I don't think Cailube is supposed to destroy faders. Try to get ahold of Tech Support @ Stanton Mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahli Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 DO NOT put any type of caig on anything but the RAILS in a PnG. NEVER use it on the conductive strips, they are made differently, all you should ever need to do to them is clean it with warm, soapy water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 cailube droplets are designed to be used on the contact strips, you've just put too much on. take out the blue contact strip and and it a good wash in warm soapy water, then dry it thoroughly. that should sort it i went through a phase of not putting cailube on the strips, cos it was making me miss click and made the cut 'fadey'. it was cos i was using too much! you wanna get a cotton bud (cue tip) and put a drop on the end of it, then wipe it over the contact strips, then use the other end to wipe it off again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgroove Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 anyone have a link to the bypass mod? i been gettin sluggish feelin and bleed on my png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahli Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 cailube droplets are designed to be used on the contact strips, NOT on PnG faders, LIKE I SAID, they're(png) made differently than Alps/PCV faders. it wears the coating over the strips off, it is NOT good for PnG faders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 if that was the case, then why does the manual advise you to do it, and why is cailube MCL droplets bundled with png equiped stanton mixers? cailube is a lubricant designed for plastic conductive strips, a p&g has plastic conductive strips. sorry dude but you're wrong..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygon Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 YOU LOSE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgroove Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 i remember reading an extensive thread on the lube subject a short while ago.....the general result was that contact strips in png's should NOT be lubed. so.... anyone gotta link to the bypass mod please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 What does the bypass mod do? I need a new stem for my P&G, it broke. I am interested in this mod though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 It bypasses the circuitry so you have no curve control, just the sharpest cut in. Dub posted a picture of it on here somewhere. You just plug the cable from the mixer into a different place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgroove Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 so it basically does the same as the tape mod but without the tape?? where is the alternate plug in point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I'm guessing this isn't for Vestax mixers, there's only one 4-pin plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgroove Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 thats wot was confusing me.....im runnin a 07pro and i didnt think there was any other point to plug in to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 stanton mixers with pngs have a circuit board on the bottom of them this is for the curve control. to bypass the curve control and give a sharper cutoff unplug the circuit board and just the wires directly together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I'm wondering if there's even any point in modding my P&G. The cut in time is pretty much instant on, there's minimal fade, plus the cut in point is right on the edge of the slot. If it can be made a touch sharper by a simple mod then I'm all for it though. EDIT: I posted that as Dub replied. OK, so Vestax are different to Stanton P&G's. We only get one plug-in point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgroove Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 i wonder how u could bypass the curve control on the 07.....without usin the tape mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahli Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 sorry dude but you're wrong..... no, i'm not. ruin your faders, do i care, no. The plastic over the strips is presicely the reason caig does NOT go on the strips. it has been discussed a million times and it's not changed, caig is BAD for your png strips. PERIOD. sorry dude, but you're a loomin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 CaiLube MCL ® is a precision lubricant specifically formulated to improve conductivity and lubricate conductive plastic and carbon compound faders, switches and other similar components. Over time these components lose their original lubrication from wear and/or repeated cleaning. Dust, dirt, drink spills and other contamination also degrade the components' lubricant. The need for re-lubrication is necessary to avoid excess wear and abrasion to the plastic surfaces. Another use for CaiLube MCL ® is on conductive membrane switches and components. Oil, grease and acids build up on the membrane surfaces due to repeated finger contact and can lead to device malfunction. Applying CaiLube MCL ® will provide a long-lasting barrier against these types of contamination. The oil, grease and acids will be displaced above the CaiLube MCL ® layer preventing contact with the plastic membrane. Uses: Lubrication/protection of plastic-to-plastic parts (faders), plastic-to-metal parts (faders, linear sliders - dot matrix printers), metal-to-metal parts (sliding and slow rotating metal parts, locks, bearings), carbon-based controls (potentiometers) and membrane switches (mouse pointers, touch keypads). Cailube is designed to be used on the strips too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 CaiLube MCL ® is a precision lubricant specifically formulated to improve conductivity and lubricate conductive plastic and carbon compound faders, switches and other similar components. Over time these components lose their original lubrication from wear and/or repeated cleaning. Dust, dirt, drink spills and other contamination also degrade the components' lubricant. The need for re-lubrication is necessary to avoid excess wear and abrasion to the plastic surfaces. i think i'll be the bigger man now and walk, yes, walk away now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixologist Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Oh SNAP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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