jsong56 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Ok seriously so whats the... 1) hardest beginner scratch? Babys, forwards, drags etc 2) hardest itermediate scratch? tears, military marchs, transforms etc 3) hardest hard-intermediate scratch? 1click and 2click orbit flares, clovers, dicing etc 4) hardest of hard scratch? prisms, uzi transforms, or tear/flare combos etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 ill start... 1) probably for me reverse's where very hard to get the syncopation (if thats you u spell it) hehe 2) transforms, not so much the technique itself but the timing and get fresh patterns. 3) double time clovers with the fingers and fast dicing patterns (consistently), and double time orbits (pinching) <- ive never heard anyone do double time orbits before at a good bpm. 4) prisms (the ones q does, 2f1b1f2b tears over 2click flares), i still cant do these after months and months of practice. i can do prisms like normal clover tears with 2click orbits over them ok i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Stop posting topic titles in caps dood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygon Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 so for the 1st answer you are looking for a really hard scratch... the 2nd answer is much more harder than the 1st..but not as hard as the 3 or 4th. wouldnt the answer for number 4 be the answer to 1-3 as well as it would still be a mutha fuckin impossible scratch to learn no matter how crap you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 the middle of the back scratch is the hardest scratch in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 steve: i didnt do it in caps did i? unless u edited it. sorry if i did dude. it wasnt intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Forward tears. full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 scratching your elbow with the same hand is fucking impossible i tell thee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dextrous Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 That thing where you get an itch that's not quite in your ear but not quite in your throat. That's a fucking impossible scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 That thing where you get an itch that's not quite in your ear but not quite in your throat. That's a fucking impossible scratch.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> H33T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Ok seriously so whats the... 1) hardest beginner scratch? Babys, forwards, drags etc 2) hardest itermediate scratch? tears, military marchs, transforms etc 3) hardest hard-intermediate scratch? 1click and 2click orbit flares, clovers, dicing etc 4) hardest of hard scratch? prisms, uzi transforms, or tear/flare combos etc<{POST_SNAPBACK}> who cares? if you're learning scratches systematically the learning curve should be even enough so that a new scratch learnt will not be too complex to learn. eg. its gonna be slightly harder to learn prisms if you dont have forward tears or flares sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryan Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Does anyone practice clovers, prizms and all that? I thought nobody bothered their arse learning those. I know i dont. Ps: everyones different, the hardest scratch for one person can be the easiest for the next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 *Written at the same time as Ryans post above* There's no such thing as a "hardest scratch". We all do shit differently, not like robots, so one person may be able to chirp like a motherfucker while the next man chirps like a wounded sparrow. I can't do certain scratches, yet I have all the basics nailed, no problem. Some little shit comes along with no basics, no feel, no structure... and posts a file with some fucking reverse multi-click prism deathray upside-down scratch. We're all different, so I think there's no way you can say what's the most difficult thing to do. That's down to the individual. @ Ryan's question above: No. I don't learn any "new" scratches. I take the basics and make my own combos. That's what it's all about for me. The essence of scratching. A clover tear is too much like one of Q's signature cuts, I never bothered doing those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 i dont practice prisms, purely cos it seems like a qbert combo, and i dont wanna bite, but having said that if you use it with a load of your own combos i guess it ceases to be a bite and becomes an influence instead. everyones different, the hardest scratch for one person can be the easiest for the next<{POST_SNAPBACK}> exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 All this "signature scratch" shit is bollocks IMO. You all do flares. If that's not a signature scratch I dunno what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Nah, biting other people's cuts is bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 So you'll do a regular tear that was invented by someone else, but not a clover because QBert does it? Yeah, that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Certain scratches just belong to certain people, there's no two ways about it. Doing a regular tear isn't like doing clover tears at all. You could do a hundred tear combos that don't sound like Q, so why would you wanna copy Qbert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 its cos a prism is a combo i guess, like the 2 click- 3 click orbit that craze does... if you continually bite different peoples combos then that is wack imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryan Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I learned how to scratch through biting other people. Anyone that did anything good i'd copy them and see where else i could take it. But saying that, i wouldnt be the most original scratcher about hehe Not that i care it's all fun and games to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 but thats the essence of learning: imitate, then innovate. simple. if you only do the first one then theres no orginality and it all goes to shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 So you can do a forward tear, or a backwards tear, but you're saying don't put them together cos QBert does them? You could do flares in loads of different ways, but you ain't saying to all the people doing basic 2-click orbits to stop. No scratches "belong" to anyone. If you choose not to do them, that's up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Ryan Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Certain scratches just belong to certain people<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like chirp flares being a d-styles scratch. You do those though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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