Guest Rory Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Just wondering if anyone has any they could post up or link. I could'nt find any, and would be interested in reading some essays on the subject. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 umm the turntable can be a musical instrument, as long as you see it being a musical instrument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkshun Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 i got the chance to do an essay on whatever i wanted for my A-Level english course so i wrote about turntablism i havnt re-read since i did it 3 odd years ago so i dont know if its gona help you out but i got a B or something for it so it cant be complete bollox Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygon Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Definitions of musical instrument on the Web: any of various devices or contrivances that can be used to produce musical tones or sounds www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn2.1 A musical instrument is a device that has been constructed or modified with the purpose of making music. In principle, anything that produces sound, and can somehow be controlled by a musician, can serve as a musical instrument; but the expression is reserved generally to items that have that specific purpose. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_instrument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_stupa Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 if anyone says it's not show them kid koala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryan Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Anything can be an instrument, my asshole could be one if i wanted it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 WHere's the phonoharp chigawogaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 i've always thought when doin turntablism it is most def an instrument, where-as for mixing...it is a record turntable check out skratchworx for any articles... www.skratchworx.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$a!n+ Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Ryans right. Anuything can be a musical instrument. The questions is wrong. You should be asking about individual people. Each person uses aparatus in different ways. "Is the person using the turnyable a musician?"If he is then the apparatus he uses is a nusical instrument. Thats the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I think that the turntable is hardly a musical instrument in and of itself. There's really little you can do with it. I mean you can make some percussive sounds by banging the needle on shit, and you can change the pitch of the static sounding crap if you like. But seriously...I mean technically it is a musical instrument. But technically when some kid bangs on pots and pans with kitchen utensils they become musical instruments, too. I think for all intensive purposes, calling the turntable a musical instrument is just silly. And everyone parading around as "turntablists" just refer to it as a musical instrument to make themselves feel like legitimate musicians. I don't know about you guys but i can't play shit with just a turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Depends how you look at it Max. You can't play a guitar with no strings, same as you can't play a turntable with no records. If you listen to something made only with a turntable, would you call it music? If you would, then surely the turntable used to make that music is an instrument? If the cunt playing the triangle in an orchestra can call himself a musician I don't see why someone scratching can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I just think you have to have serious fucking skills to play just the turntable...that few of us have. You would have to have super precise pitch shifting and needle dropping skills. That makes craze, woody, and about 3 other musicians as far as im concerned. The rest of us are fucked without a mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 OK, do you consider the QFO to be an instrument? Don't answer that. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 (Q)bert is (F)ucking (O)rgasmic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryan Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 You can even make spoons into an instrument. Ask steve, he's like virgil donati with the spoons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I think that the turntable is hardly a musical instrument in and of itself. There's really little you can do with it. I mean you can make some percussive sounds by banging the needle on shit, and you can change the pitch of the static sounding crap if you like. But seriously...I mean technically it is a musical instrument. But technically when some kid bangs on pots and pans with kitchen utensils they become musical instruments, too. I think for all intensive purposes, calling the turntable a musical instrument is just silly. And everyone parading around as "turntablists" just refer to it as a musical instrument to make themselves feel like legitimate musicians. I don't know about you guys but i can't play shit with just a turntable.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd agree, pretty much. I can do a few things without a mixer, but nothing worth hearing. I don't care for that faderless stuff anyway. When Qbert does that shit it bores me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 You can even make spoons into an instrument. Ask steve, he's like virgil donati with the spoonsI did actually consider changing my name to Virgil Spoonati, but then I realised that was a really fucking stupid idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 if a hollowed out tree trunk, a triangle bit of steel, 2 spoons put back to back can be a instrument, then hell, a turntable can be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rory Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 i think your right, you could label anything as an instument - that includes ryans asshole ha! what i was intrested in is reading a more adademic anaysis - talking about similar developments in music art and.. you know that sort of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la ressistance Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 woody plays the turntable on his flutine video,i don't see any other way of describing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerpot Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 turntable as a gardening toollol sorry had to say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 woody plays the turntable on his flutine video,i don't see any other way of describing it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 I think both the musician AND the listener need to see it as an instrument. Otherwise, to one it is an instrument, to another is is a record player. It is to each person whay they make of it. Also, I think a tool is defined by it's application, so definitions change according to how it is being manipulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 yeah but i think for all intensive purposes, it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that anything used to make "music" is a musical instrument because it forces you to decide whether what is being produced qualifies as music or not in order to decide whether what makes it is an instrument. I think we can safely say that the turntable can be used as an instrument, but isn't always. Just like ryan's asshole can be used as a musical instrument, but the rest of the time it's used for something else. That's why I think we can say somebody like Woody often uses the turntable as an instrument, but dj fuckall doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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