jsong56 Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 just wandering if the click plate mod will work on a xs8 with a vestax pvc 05 cf plate? i heard it only works with the vestax alps click plate? anyone done it with a pcv click plate? any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blak Randy Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 I did it with the alps and it worked dope. Not tried PCV. Have a look at it. If it will fit and the click plate space is slightly smaller than the XS8s fader then it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaterNob Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 The standard fader has about 4mm of dead space each side if that's any help. If not then e-mail the guys at www.miltec.org.uk and see if they've got any of the metal squares with offset holes that they did with the 320, these can be fitted at different positions to reduce the dead space by variants of mm (1mm,2mm,3mm etc), pz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 anyone else done this mod with a pcv click plate?i found a pcv click plate, im not sure if it will work though.wouldnt a alps click plate be the same as a pcv plate anyway? can anyone try this mod????? i havent got my xs8 yet, got it on lay buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalk Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 I did the mod on my XS-8. I used an ALPS click plate with square ends. The PCVs have round ends at the slots but I guess it won't matter. The cut in was super tight after the mod. Highly recommended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Where did you get the XS-8 from Jsong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virak Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 A PCV clickplate worked brilliantly in my XS-8. i heard it only works with the vestax alps click plate?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> In my XS-4 the PCV plate didn't work out (it was like 0,001mm dead space).I wasn't aware of any differences, but I just compared an Alps and a PCV clickplate, and the slots in the Alps is approx. 2mm longer. So now it will go straight into the XS-4. I love that mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virak Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 The standard fader has about 4mm of dead space each side if that's any help. If not then e-mail the guys at www.miltec.org.uk and see if they've got any of the metal squares with offset holes that they did with the 320, these can be fitted at different positions to reduce the dead space by variants of mm (1mm,2mm,3mm etc), pz<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those squares were made for the 320's Panasonic faders. The XS-8/4 has Ecler PROFaders, so it's a possibility it won't work out very well. Has anyone here tried those in a a Tascam or HAK310/360? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaterNob Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 How much dead space in mm does the alps click plate cut off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalk Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 pretty much everything. cut in is less than a millimeter. comparable to the rane 56 cut in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixologist Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 my cut in on my FFV2 is like 1 CM lol and then you add in the gay ass delay and it's even worse.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 thanks for all your posts... but im still not quite sure about the correct answer? someone has said that u can use a normal pcv click plate, but alot of others have said u have to use a alps click plate? can someone help me out with this?id do it with but i havent got the mixer yet. can someone try this mod with a pcv clickplate? or has someone done it b4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 steve: i got it on lay buy at a store in sydney. i got it for $375 aus. they had xs4's for $250. i got a rane 56 but i heard the xs8's are awesome for the price and they arnt making them no more so i picked one up b4 they sell out. cgroove: if u want a xs8 or xs4 go to lightsounds!!! they are having a mad deal on the xs8 for $375, normally $699 aus but they probably bullshitting. still, $375 for a quality mixer is DOPE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalk Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 some dude on asis did the mod with a pcv plate, so it's gonna work either way. it's not a permanent mod, so just try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 VIRAK: correct me if im wrong but did you said that a pcv plate worked brilliantly in your xs8 but not in your xs4??? so u have both a xs4 and a xs8 yeh? from your post i gather that the pcv plate is ok in the xs8, but for a xs4 u need a alps clickplate, true???? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbay Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 steve: i got it on lay buy at a store in sydney. i got it for $375 aus. they had xs4's for $250. i got a rane 56 but i heard the xs8's are awesome for the price and they arnt making them no more so i picked one up b4 they sell out. cgroove: if u want a xs8 or xs4 go to lightsounds!!! they are having a mad deal on the xs8 for $375, normally $699 aus but they probably bullshitting. still, $375 for a quality mixer is DOPE!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> fuck aye ive seen ads on those xs8's and 4's.. if only i could pull $375 outta my behind. my problem is i have shit all money. thats why im still rockin my stanton sk6 baby yeah :$ im at uni so im not working, and it sucks especially if i wanna buy records. frustrates the fucken hell out of me, thats what motivates me to cut. aahhh fuck gear, its all about the skeeelz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 cgroove: i work full time and i still have no money! loli lay buyed the thing! put a bit on it and pay it off slowly.hopefully ill get it next wk. put it this way, if u got a sk6 and its getting old, $375 for a xs8 is fuckin sick!!! plus they are discontinued, i spoke to lightsounds and they said that they wont be selling them anymore. if u buy one from next month it will probably be second hand. all in all its a dope buy. i dont really need another mixer cuz i got a 56 but i thought id buy it and use it as a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 virak: u got both a xs4 and xs8???which one do u like better??? do they both have the hak 360 upfaders for all 3 faders??? o yeh i was wandering, my rane 56 has a 3rd aux input so i can plug a minidisc or cd player into it. does the xs8 or xs4 have this ability???can u use the effects input as a 3rd aux input??? yes/no??? thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virak Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 virak: u got both a xs4 and xs8???which one do u like better??? do they both have the hak 360 upfaders for all 3 faders??? o yeh i was wandering, my rane 56 has a 3rd aux input so i can plug a minidisc or cd player into it. does the xs8 or xs4 have this ability???can u use the effects input as a 3rd aux input??? yes/no??? thanx<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, got both. I obviously prefer the XS-8, as the XS-4 is a very stripped down version of the former. The XS-4 also have very bad upfader curves (fades from 1-3, then full volume), I've modded in curve controls, but I'm not quite there yet. They both have interchangable Ecler PROFaders all around, and as far as I can tell, same soundquality (really pisses on Vestax). The XS-8 has a session input with gain, and the XS-4 has an aux input with no controls whatsoever. I have no clue regarding the use of effects. I think the manuals for HAK320 and HAK300 should be easy to find online, they're excactly the same as XS-8 and XS-4 (sans faders and chassis). Google it up. And yes, a PCV click-plate worked in my XS-8, but not in my XS-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbay Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 cgroove: i work full time and i still have no money! loli lay buyed the thing! put a bit on it and pay it off slowly.hopefully ill get it next wk. put it this way, if u got a sk6 and its getting old, $375 for a xs8 is fuckin sick!!! plus they are discontinued, i spoke to lightsounds and they said that they wont be selling them anymore. if u buy one from next month it will probably be second hand. all in all its a dope buy. i dont really need another mixer cuz i got a 56 but i thought id buy it and use it as a backup.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> gotta get me a job! hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 virak: sweet, im gunna pick it up on friday so it should be aight!!u seem prettty happy with it so im sure ill be too.im gunna mod the fader straight away though. with the pcv - 05 clickplate mod, do u get ANY bleeding at all?with the mod done, what type of cut in do u get? 1mm-2mm? i like the vestax metal click sound aswell, does it sound anything like a vestax click with the mod done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 hey virak i was just thinking, ive got 2 pcv-05 click plates for the upfaders aswell, is there any point in putting these on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virak Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 With the PCV-plate in my XS-8, I've got 1mm cut-in on each side, and the click is a nice "click", not the horrible Vestax "CLANK". The XS-8 doesn't have a CF-type cut on it's sharpest setting, so IMO it's not really worth the bother to clickplate-mod the ups. I did try it out, though. If you have the option, try it out for yourself. You might like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsong56 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 there is a mod u can do to get a cross fader type cut on the ups isnt there? if u know what im talkn bout, is it permanent and is it worth doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virak Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 there is a mod u can do to get a cross fader type cut on the ups isnt there? if u know what im talkn bout, is it permanent and is it worth doing?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> There's some posts on asisphonics.net regarding a switch for an instant sharp cut, but the mod has it's ups and downs. I guess the curve controls on the XS-8 could be improved by changing some resistors. I've heard that people have done it on the HAK360 ups, but I don't know how, as I don't know shit about electronics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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