motosega Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 where do you sticker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Gotta be 12, always fun having a cut with Rock Well's records, for some gay reason he 3 o'clocks it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcyd Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I used to 3PM it. I now go with the needle. Which is highly inaccurate depending who's skipless you get. Sometimes i just put that shit anywhere. MInd you, i'd don't juggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosega Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 from the beginning i just stickered mine at the stylus, it seemed logical, since it physicaly corresponds with the sound, but now i've been seeing videos of people with stickers at 12'oclock and asking myself why? 3 O'clock is just too crazy for me to even comprehend. i hope i'm not missing some subtle secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Dont think it really matters, just down to what ya used to. Does having the sticker in needle position move a bit with different headshell or concord setups? Edited January 8, 2013 by Dubba Dutchdj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosega Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dont think it really matters, just down to what ya used to. Does having the sticker in needle position move a bit with different headshell or concord setups? i line it up with the actual needle so its always the same. even if i switch to between straight and s-shaped tone arms. if you sticker at 12-oclock there must be a bit of a change between straight arm decks and technics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^Yeah, there is. When I used to play gigs, I had my records stickered at the needle for that very reason, cos I had PDX-2000s and sometimes I'd have to use 1200s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosega Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^Yeah, there is. When I used to play gigs, I had my records stickered at the needle for that very reason, cos I had PDX-2000s and sometimes I'd have to use 1200s. stylus sticker master race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^Yeah, there is. When I used to play gigs, I had my records stickered at the needle for that very reason, cos I had PDX-2000s and sometimes I'd have to use 1200s. yeh i noticed this. i've always been a 12oclock man. i still am. but on my 1210s i added a little green sticker for a straight arm reference point, incase i'd put a stick on while using a pdx. altho thinking about it, i dont have that pdx anymore, so i can forget about this problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 So the sticker position does move, but with the stylus, which is gotta be good for the first sample at least. I find that going from straight to S-shaped tonearms only becomes a bit frustrating with samples like "cut like a guillotine" as the position of the individual letters/samples gets burnt in to your memory on one set up and then ya gotta compensate on another, which would still be the same for stylus sticker types, bar the first sample of course, which I guess must be nice to have across all set ups, but not really enough to make think I'm missing out on anything, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Unless you're juggling I really don't see this as a problem, especially for skipless records... You don't even have to look at it once you're going, do you really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 yeh i think what i meant to say was more along the lines of Dubba, as in it mainly effects sentences, and the memory you associate with them.but yeh for single sounds, as long as theres a reference its fine really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dont think it really matters, just down to what ya used to. Does having the sticker in needle position move a bit with different headshell or concord setups? i line it up with the actual needle so its always the same. even if i switch to between straight and s-shaped tone arms. if you sticker at 12-oclock there must be a bit of a change between straight arm decks and technics.So obvious when you see it in black and white, but I never thought of that. I started at 12 o'clock, but switched to 3 o'clock when I got my first skipless record (superseal) - I stuck my sticker at 12 o'clock on the first sound... but the first sound was "beep" so the "aaah" I always used ended up at 3 o'clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Also, it's only scratch records I sticker at 3, all other records for mixing or juggling/doubling I sticker at 12. Actually, I've even carried this backwards system over to hot-cueing sounds with DVS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Also, it's only scratch records I sticker at 3, all other records for mixing or juggling/doubling I sticker at 12. Actually, I've even carried this backwards system over to hot-cueing sounds with DVS. Weirdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^ yep Matt, the fact you've carried it across to DVS is pretty special(needs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I know. I'd never even questioned it til now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Strickly speaking, my scratch records aren't just at 12 and 3 either... they're stickered at 11, 12 and 1 o'clock and 2, 3, and 4 o'clock depending on wether I'm scratching on a straight arm PDX or 1200 and wether they were stickered up on a PDX or 1200. Which pisses me off... I could have avoided all this just by cueing to the needle every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 3 sticker colour system FTW, all relative to the needle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosega Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 3 sticker colour system FTW, all relative to the needle i'm starting to juggle at the moment, so i'm interested in this, as far as i understand, with three stickers they line up with the beats @100bpm. i've been juggling beats that i have pitched up to 133.33bpm in the audio file then pitched down again on the turntable, that way i get a sticker at the beggining of each bar. but i suppose you can't go verry far down on technics. i have ttx. (is that actualy cheating or just sneaky?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 i'm starting to juggle at the moment, so i'm interested in this, as far as i understand, with three stickers they line up with the beats @100bpm. i've been juggling beats that i have pitched up to 133.33bpm in the audio file then pitched down again on the turntable, that way i get a sticker at the beggining of each bar. but i suppose you can't go verry far down on technics. i have ttx. (is that actualy cheating or just sneaky?) Yes 3 stickers will line up perfectly for 100BPM, but are also still useful from a range of ~90-110BPM, and since most beats I juggle are in that range I keep my records stickered like that. The pitching to 133.33bpm works but so far from my experimentations I've found it kind of hard to do a lot of things because the sounds (especially <1/4 note) are soo close together so it's a bit limiting in that sense. The main way that it helps is being able to chase through the record and still have visual cues, but it's already possible to do that without visual cues anyways. So overall I feel like it's a bit of a crutch and more limiting than helpful but there might be some merit, I have to try it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosega Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 i'm in the process of editing some beats for juggling, for beats thaty are originaly closer to 100bpm it dosent make sense to take them all the way to 133bpm, then pitch them down again (~24%) so i'm putting them at 100bpm. i'll try 100bpm and three stickers and see how i get on. i saw you mentioned on the site of vinilificio in bologna, do you really get your dubs cut here in italy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 i'm in the process of editing some beats for juggling, for beats thaty are originaly closer to 100bpm it dosent make sense to take them all the way to 133bpm, then pitch them down again (~24%) so i'm putting them at 100bpm. i'll try 100bpm and three stickers and see how i get on. i saw you mentioned on the site of vinilificio in bologna, do you really get your dubs cut here in italy? haha whaat? I don't think so... I've only gotten dubplates from 1 place over seas and it was UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 lining up with stylus probably makes most sense, but ive always gone for 12oclock, and ive got pdx2300's with j arms, so they conveniently end up in the same position as on a technics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosega Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 i'm in the process of editing some beats for juggling, for beats thaty are originaly closer to 100bpm it dosent make sense to take them all the way to 133bpm, then pitch them down again (~24%) so i'm putting them at 100bpm. i'll try 100bpm and three stickers and see how i get on. i saw you mentioned on the site of vinilificio in bologna, do you really get your dubs cut here in italy? haha whaat? I don't think so... I've only gotten dubplates from 1 place over seas and it was UKhave a look! on the seccond image that flashes up on the home page. http://www.vinilificio.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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