Guest Symatic Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 anyone else got painful finger-joints from scratching? my index finger (fader side) has been feeling kinda battered recently and i'm wondering if its cos i've been practicing fast stabs alot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djfoly Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 its possible my wrists are fucked......but thats another matter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I know a couple of people here over the years have had carpel tunnel or rsi in their wrists. when I'm trying to learn new patterns (in particular fast transforms and flares) i often find I get pain in my lower forearm/upper wrist on my fader hand, but my fingers are normally ok. For me it's normally my muscles getting used to the new movements, I find that I can do a lot of the scratches that used to create this pain really easily now with no muscle pains whatsoever. I always rest when the pain has been going on for a few minutes though. I have to crack the joints in my fingers/ankles a few times a day though, but I don't think that's scratch related (especially the ankles!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 im getting the odd stiffness in my fader hand fingers. and sometimes my left (record) hand aches abit. i put this down to sitting at a computer all day aswell as scratching tho. not painful yet tho, just abit achey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doppelkorn Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 im getting the odd stiffness in my cock. and sometimes my ringpiece aches abit. i put this down to my job as a rent boy aswell as scratching tho. not painful yet tho, just abit achey Hahahaaaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 More wrist issues. Get massage and have them strip out the tendons in ur wrist and fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I think it's important to warm up and stretch before scratching heavily, there loads of exercises to do really, but I generally just bend my finger back a bit etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 If its a pain thats recurring consider taking a week or two rest then see how you feel after that. Or you can just shorten your daily practice times alot.. Or if its only a pain in your fader hand then practice faderless tears for a while although with me anyway I always gave up to the temptation of using the fader after a bit. It really isn't worth continuing though at your current pace if you're getting pain alot cause it might just get worse and turn chronic. Put both your hands together palm side up and look for any swelling points on the painful parts, if its more swollen in parts then on the other healthy feeling hand then you might be developing tendonitis (inflamation of the tendons). Its treatable if you catch it early anyway. But yeah thats what I've got now and I ignored it for ages which aint a very good idea. Go to Doc's if its really worrying you. They'll prolly refer you to a specialist as they usually only know basics about hand conditions. To be fair long periods of rest though is the only thing thats helped me.. Oh yeah and have a look at your finger placement on the fader cause if your clicking with your fingers diagonally alot your putting more strain on joint points in the fingers. thats what happened with my thumb on me fader hand and it completely disables you for a while if you get that shit on your thumb unless you try develop a way of lobster stancing shit with your index as a thumb replacement lol. @foly: if its in yer wrists then u might be getting carpel tunnel syndrome. Pretty sure dj vajra has that (hes regularly wearing tennis wrist bands in videos of him cutting. the bands squeeze the tendons a little so in theory they can go through the carpel tunnel of bone points in your hand with less friction when inflamed). I dunno too much about carpel tunnel cause I dont have that.. for a while i thought i had it though so kinda looked it up a little.. theres alot of info on the net anyhow on both tendonitis treatment and carpel tunnel. Anti inflamitories can help too.. stuff like devils claw was pretty good for me.. the docs usually prescibe diclophenac at first for this type of shit but yeah its no excuse for just continuing at the same pace just cause youve started taking pills for the pains.. i did that so learn from my mistakes haha. Consider buying a powerball gyroscope too for building up your finger/forearm strengh although i wouldn't go over 7k rpm if you wanna use it to rehabilitate yourself. I find that i can get away with not working on my powerball for ages and cutting instead but then when i stop cutting i'll do a little powerballing.. doing sessions of both in the same day is just a bad idea IMO as you're overworking yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Basically you are building up muscles on one side and not the other and then the bigger muscles get stuck on each other... so it would help to do exercises that are the opposite movement of what ur doing. I have a few different things I do to help and don't have much pain anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 damn chile that's a hell of a response! thanks Its interesting what you said about the wrist bands though cos if i grip round the offending finger it doesnt hurt to flex it. this started a few weeks ago and the finger was all inflamed and stuff. I think its time to check into the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 damn chile that's a hell of a response! thanks Its interesting what you said about the wrist bands though cos if i grip round the offending finger it doesnt hurt to flex it. this started a few weeks ago and the finger was all inflamed and stuff. I think its time to check into the garage. no probs man. that does sound quite tendonitisy to me. If it started a week ago I wouldnt worry too much about it though. i mean i had it bad for a month or more and then decided to go to docs when i couldnt even click a mouse button anymore. I would defo go to docs pronto and in the mean time improving your faderless style will give you tighter cuts when your index is nicely healed. Ask the doc to see a specialist straight off though cause i had to go a few times before they reccomended me to people that really knew what they were talking about. My doc just put me on diclophenac and said to rest it which is good advice but yeah going a specialist theyll tell you more about why its happened and shit, and i got a splint made for me too to wear when resting and sleeping which was cool. And the nurse that made the splint was fit so that was nice. haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kian Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 ive been skratching over 10 years, no pain at all. although i should mention that i do play piano and type on keyboard daily along with skratching, no pain yet, but when i started doing skratching and piano at the beginning, it started to hurt but you build muscles and they dont hurt today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 it's pretty much gone away now. i had a couple of weeks with no decks which helped i think, plus i've adapted my style a bit for doing flares and stabs, my fingers aren't always curled up ready to crab all the time now. maybe that was the problem, cos ive got twiggy alien fingers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assemblyworker Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Any finger drummers out there with problems? Been getting bad pains in my right hand, pretty frustrating as I was making some progress. Been resting my hand and just practicing left handed but had a gig the other day and now it's hurting again. The main pain is in the paddy bit below the thumb, with complimentary pains that shoot up my whole arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Any finger drummers out there with problems? I have a pain at a specific point in my left hand if I do a lot of finger drumming, but i think it's to more to do with a self-inflicted-alcohol-related injury on my hand from years and years ago, than finger drumming per se! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assemblyworker Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Fair enough, seen a couple of your vids BTW. Props fella, you got skills! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Thanks Man! I need to get some new videos done when I get some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Any finger drummers out there with problems? Been getting bad pains in my right hand, pretty frustrating as I was making some progress. Been resting my hand and just practicing left handed but had a gig the other day and now it's hurting again. The main pain is in the paddy bit below the thumb, with complimentary pains that shoot up my whole arm. I dont finger drum, but shooting pain can be a symptom of carpel tunnel although it might not be that serious. Id go get it checked out with the docs early on though. the shooting pain from what ive read can be caused by some tendon tissue inflammation at the carpel tunnel site that's leaving less space within that compacted area.. this can put pressure on a nerve running through there, which then causes the shooting pain. How is your posture when you finger drum? are your wrists usually bent or in neutral.. and does the pain get worse when you stretch your arms out from the sides horizontally then bend your wrist upwards or downwards at an angle? If the shooting pain gets worse in those postures thats another sign of possible inflammation around the carpel tunnel. Also the paddy bit below your thumb is that fleshy muscular part right? I have issues there from scratching.. might be worth using the thumb from the opposite hand to feel for nodules in that area. you just gotta push into that area with a little force with the finger print bit of your opposing thumb and make a see saw motion into the muscle tissue. make sure you're doing this parallel to the fibres of muscle tissue (so you get deeper running the thumb between the muscle fibers), which run from the base second thumb joint toward the lower centre of the palm. if you find any tough nodules try to isolate and massage them out with the tip of your thumb using the same forceful see saw motion. If you do have nodules it takes a long time to massage them out.. I found a few small nodules a few years ago and theyre still there. I wouldn't recommend doing too much massaging either, a few minutes (5-10) a day max, as you can easily aggravate the site. Also strangely enough, shooting pain in your hands and arm can sometimes be caused by your neck since the nerve from the hand is traveling past there on its way to the spine.. It might be worth doing some neck stretches while laid horizontal next time the pains at its worst just to see if that reduces the pain at all. Although i try to be thorough with the info i write about on this topic, its pretty obvious im no doc lol. all this info has been taken from reading websites over the years and from personal experience so take it with a pinch of salt and I'd definitely make visiting your doc and getting him to refer you to a hand specialist the first priority if its a continuing thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assemblyworker Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Cheers for the reply.... I guess my hand positioning is similar to what a piano player would have, I've tried to base my technique on that. I don't really get pains when arms are out stretched but the pain in the thumb pad often nags away, I only get the shooting pains when I'm actually drumming. That's interesting what you say about the neck as I've often had problems there. Guess I need to get to the doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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