Dub-Se7en Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 SystemAsus A7V8X-E Deluxe motherboardAMD AthlonXP 3000+ CPU1024mb PC2700 DDR RAM i can't seem to get my CPU temperature down. i've just got in to see my CPU temp hitting nearly 70 degrees C! i've just changed my CPU fan from an arctic cooling variable speed fan to a Akasa constant speed 80mm one. this seems to have helped a little and the cpu is down to 59. cooling wise i have a chassis fan in the front drawing in, one inside sending air over the hard drives, and one pulling air out at the back. should i reverse the flow so the rear fan is drawing air in over the cooler? also i am beginning to suspect i have a faulty CPU cos my mate also runs a XP3000+ and his runs about 40-50. any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Have you tried removing the side panels? A bit obvious, I know, but if it runs at an OK temperature when you do remove them, it's probably safe to say that it's the case cooling that's causing the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 i tried before when i had the other fan on and it made no differerence. but now i've changed the fan and removed the side again i've got a 10 degree drop. currently running at 56 any recomendations for a case? i don't want anything too flash, and capable of taking 5 hard drives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 I'm using a Wave Master (black one) which is pretty good, but they cost a lot. Mine was £150, but I think they came down a fair bit in price since I got mine. CPU temp on my Athlon64 3200+ is approx. 30 degrees, btw. Clownstyle also uses a Wave Master (silver one). If that's too expensive, maybe look at some of the cheaper Cooler Master cases. Centurion range is pretty good. Also there's Lian Li cases. Not cheap, they are very nicely made but you can pick up a decent small Lian Li for not too much. There's the Tsunami Dream, which is based (ripped off) on the Wave Master. Very good case, but not sure of the price. I'm not gonna suggest a cheap case because that won't help. The better cases for cool temps are aluminium ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 i was gonna get a centurion, but they seem to have been discontinued. the wave master is a sweet case, i've built a few before but it's a little hefty (my room is tiny), however, i'll bear that in mind with the side off and a deskfan blowing over it i've hit an all time low of 52degrees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Yeah, the Wave is a deep case, not particularly high or wide, just deep. To be honest, there's a few things I don't like about this case (the main problem is that it allows unfiltered air to come in through the front). So... I wonder if they discontinued the Centurion with plans to bring out another lower-budget case. How about Antec's Sonata? I know it comes with a PSU, but maybe it's worth considering? EDIT: No, I just read somewhere that it's toasty inside. I have a Sonata and it is quiet but case temps can run almost 30 degrees over room temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 cheers dude. for the time being i'mma run it with the side off. i'll get a nice case when i've paid a few bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasquatch Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 how is the heatsink in contact with the processor? if it is just the little pads or whatever, try and get hold of some silicon gel - it took me processor temp down about 15 degrees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasquatch Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 i can't entirely remember, but i think this might've been the stuff i used - certainly cheaper than buying a new case, give it a go http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=130266 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 With all due respect, Dub builds systems, and any system builder will already know that TIM (Thermal Insulation Material) is vital. I doubt he would have built his own system without using some. The best TIM is Arctic Silver 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-Se7en Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 yup, it's got Arctic Silver 5 on it. i got it from overclockers cos they're just down the road from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasquatch Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 oh, didnt know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Don't buy a computer from him though unless you wanna use it to fry eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sasquatch Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 has anyone ever tried building a pc into one of those mini fridges? would look a lot better than those stupid water colling systems you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 I believe people have actually done this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Is it true that Apple computers don't have fans? If it is, how come they can stay cool and PCs can't? A totally silent PC would be great if it was a simple thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Not sure if they have fans. Maybe they use heatpipes? An (almost) silent PC isn't too difficult to build, you can buy fanless power supplies, as well as heatsinks for your GPU and CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 feeble processors dont need fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Quiet Operation It’s no secret that computers generate heat. So Apple divided the inside of the Power Mac G5 into four discrete thermal zones, compartmentalizing the primary heat-producing components — processor, PCI, storage and power supply — so the system can decrease the temperature of a single zone without affecting the others. Each thermal zone is equipped with its own dedicated fans spinning at very low speeds for minimum acoustic output. Using 21 different sensors, Mac OS X constantly monitors component temperatures and power consumption in each zone, dynamically adjusting individual fan speeds for the quietest possible operation. As a result, the Power Mac G5 runs two times quieter than the previous Power Mac G4. The processors Apple use have a different architecure that do more instructions per clock cycle, a bit like the AMD/Intel thing where processor speed isn't that relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Look at the inside of a G5's case: - My PC is like a Tupperware box filled with spaghetti compared to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Reezy Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 have you inspected your heatsynch? sometimes they get dirty, and they cant dissipate heat fast enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Look at the inside of a G5's case: - My PC is like a Tupperware box filled with spaghetti compared to that.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> be good if you could run windows on it you can make your pc like that dee once posted up a pc "case" that was the size of a cd drive.used laptop hdd and an external psu was only about 250 quid. just add processor memory and drive what was it called again? dee! link . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Who here has a PC even close to as tidy as that? The G5 comes like that as standard. In general, PC case design is hardly different from how it was 10 or more years ago. Grey boxes with wires all over the place and enough fans to ride the thing down the street like a hovercraft. If you want a good comparison of XP and OSX/Tiger then read here: - http://www.xvsxp.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Looks to me like they didn't wire that G5 up. There's empty RAM slots, the drives have no molexes in them and everything. It is tidy though, but it still doesn't kick enough butt. Grae -- I can't remember the name of that little PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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