ELGEE Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/16/thud-rumbles-intel-powered-dj-mixer-has-a-pc-inside/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just seen the photos popping up on Instagram, it sounds very interesting indeed although there's some way to go yet. Let's hope its eventually manufactured and sold properly, no more Kickstarter debacles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Basically they've just put a tablet PC in a mixer, note that it still requires an external traktor box to be traktor-compliant EDIT : All the hard work is still to be done, this is really just a mock-up. It's competitively priced at $1,699 (the Pioneer DJ DJM-S9 mixer for Serato costs the same without a built-in computer) and will ship at the end of the year. Yeah right. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 There's a point at which too much hardware integration becomes a ball ache I reckon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAbbott Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 cue the - "DJ caught watching porn in booth" article My first thought was it's a lot to go wrong and pricey to fix but I suppose it's no different to your laptop failing on you anyway, you'd still need a back up plan of some sort... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What someone really needs to do is build a proper mixer with a DVS capability specifically designed for it, using traktor/serato via a touchscreen is the wrong approach IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELGEE Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 My Z2 and MacBook Pro cost me less than that mixer will cost and if one breaks I only have to fix the one thing and can still use the other by its self, also the mixer has traktor built in and easily fit in the same bag as my laptop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I heard about this a few months back. I think it's a good idea but the execution is important. I'm a big fan of stand-alone hardware but there's lots of R&D that needs to go into making sure the internal software works well. I don't know about traktor but serato is not very touch-screen friendly right now. I think a flat touch-screen built into the mixer is a dope idea and would be great if done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savwar Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 it looks terrible, granted there's probably a way to go with the design. soon decent dvs will probably be possible on a tablet anyway, so this is redundant in my opinion. There's a point at which too much hardware integration becomes a ball ache I reckon. precisely this. it's already bad enough when people need to swap/share mixers at gigs, no one wants to have someone using their PC thing too. an S9(or whatever) and a tablet (in the future) will be a way better option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savwar Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I hate those arcade type buttons on equipment, yes they're retro and "cool" but i think it's bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I hate those arcade type buttons on equipment, yes they're retro and "cool" but i think it's bullshit. They're really popular among the djtechtools controllerist wankers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Those buttons are nice if you need maximum target, popular with guitarists for kill switches too.Not sure i see the value in this though, an intel powered tablet will give you some insight in to how shit desktop DJ apps are with a touchscreen compared to something like DJPlayer pro on ios, which has awesome DVS support too. I do hope this gets to market though, just to try and force desktop apps in to better touch support (tracktor is particularly wank) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Oh Rasteri check your messages dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigno80 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Dj worx saying it'll come with windows 10... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Total crap. I left my bilis at djtt and djworx because this is a total no sense. If someone wants to discus details about tablet dvs and/or remote control from iPad over mac I will pleased of explain but I believe nobody cares xD. My bet is Pioneer releasing something more useful before the end of year and borrowing any NI new which seems aren't in any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 They can't even deliver Steve's record, how are they going to figure this out?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Well you say that Dirk, but they've figured out what's going on with the moon when the rest of the world has ignored what's staring them right in the face... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Dj worx saying it'll come with windows 10... For real ?10 has a latency hit over 7/8 and embeddedBasically this thing could be built yourself for less than $5001x Windows 10 tablet1x ArduinoA bunch of hardware And either 1x Murtis or Rasteri hahahaObviously they are going for an i series NUC, but even that is a bit of overkill here to be honest, CPU and RAM are not the issue with desktop DJ apps on Tablets, that damn touch screen is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'm actually a little surprised you all aren't more into this. I just got DVS (literally a few weeks back) but there are two things I would fix right off the bat. First, all of the info and controls directly on the mixer with a touch-screen is ideal for me. It's fast, there's no keyboard in the way, it's intuitive. You can't very well put a tablet right on top of the gain knobs on your mixer so integrating that in seems way better to me. I like the idea of a fully offline dedicated machine that's not going to made obsolete because of an OS change or some other bullshit. Second is the latency. I've got a brand new i7 laptop, tons of ram, and it's almost as good as the real thing but it's STILL not as good as real wax. I can tell the difference. They'll probably never fix that 100% but if somebody could build a dedicated system (which I realize this is not) to reduce round trip latency to something like 4 milliseconds that would be dope. Thud pulling all of this off seems highly unlikely but I like the idea behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Pray for a limited edition version, ideally in gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanol Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Wow that is awful! I'm all for moving away from using laptops for djing but that is not the way to go IMOThat touchscreen is taking up valuable pot space. How are you going to adjust the eq? On a touch screen? What about filter knobs? Pretty much standard on modern mixers. Looks far too small and fiddly to be accurate. Ideally I would like to see something with the controls of say a DJM S9 or Rane 62 for track browsing, loading, effects etc. but be able to play files from flash drives plugged into the mixer so would have some kind of processor inside the mixer. And also have visible waveforms and library browser on a remote screen. I could probably do without the waveforms TBH. I wouldn't mind having to do track prep on a laptop at home ala rekordbox and just turn up and play. If someone is going to develop a computer solely for DJing then I would rather stick with the laptop style but rather than a qwerty keyboard why not something like a DDJ SP1 underneath for all the DJ related controls. And maybe use a touchscreen for library browsing but not controlling the mixer. Include an audio interface and job done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Pray for a limited edition version, ideally in gold. The Golden Invader sounds like a posh dildo or some kind of buttplug. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAbbott Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 They can't even deliver Steve's record, how are they going to figure this out??lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Alternatives (or complements) TraxusVersion 1.3.0 is now available for download (Sep 8, 2015). Most notably, we've added support for Stem decks and improved MIDI Clock detection on start-up along with other behind-the-scenens bug fixes. Be sure to install the updated .tsi mapping file in Traktor! UpdatesSTEM Deck support!Enhanced MIDI clock detectionBug Fixes:Refinements to SLICE feature in Remix DecksNavigation and user interface fixesMapping fixes in the .tsi file http://traxusinteractive.com/ Two years ago... Djaplayer pro http://djplayerpro.com Dvs and stems on iPad. Less than 2 ms of latency.The discontinnued non pro version works even with iPad 1 More than 5 years ago... Djay Pro Non dvs but video and stems over iPad (not pro required but latest versions suggested) Some thoughts on intel Tablets and so... The news after Intel leaving tablet market is partner with Arm.http://www.pcworld.com/article/3063508/components/intel-is-on-the-verge-of-exiting-the-smartphone-and-tablet-markets-after-cutting-atom-chips.html http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/16/12507568/intel-arm-mobile-chips-licensing-deal-idf-2016 And know what? IPads chips are Arm (specific from Apple) and iOS is crafted for it. Link the dots and look the no sense from win10 blablah. Edited August 17, 2016 by Mutis Mayfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Win10 was a dead mobile platform before it was even released.Oh and if you speak to the developer of DJPlayerPro, he is already in the process of making it cross platform, I suspect Android is next, which means that it will be extremely cheap to get it running. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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