djxander Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 2 worthwhile articles about how people like 50 Cent are falling off the top of the rap game... thought you guys would appreciate them A Few Things to Ponder-A Crack in the Façade A Few Things to Ponder-ACrack in the Façade-Hip Hop is ChangingBy Davey D I’ve been saying this for weeks Hip Hop is ready for a change and changeis definitely on the horizon. What am I talking about? Well despitehaving to endure endless hours of commercials on both radio and TV, aseries of calculated beefs and off color remarks designed to sparkcontroversy and a media blitz that saw Curtis ’50 Cent’ Jackson appeareverywhere from David Letterman to ‘The View’, ‘Get Rich and Die Trying’in the end it didn’t fair well at the box office this weekend. You could see it coming a mile away. When I was in Atlanta on theSpelman campus the other week, no one and I mean no one was talkingabout this movie in any way, shape or form. This was in spite of hearingall those commercials on the local radio stations. When I spoke at thereI asked the audience if they had heard about the movie and all handswere raised. I then asked who intended to see it, all the hands wentdown. The other week in Oakland while talking with some high school agekids, I came across extreme disinterest and outright resentment. Peoplewere saying things like ‘Fiddy is over exposed’. ‘Fiddy starts too muchbeef’. ‘Fiddy is wack… I ain’t checking for him no more’. Now keep in mind, the disinterest had nothing to do with his actingskillz or lack of them. It had nothing to do with weather or not themovie was shot well or not. Lord knows over the years folks have showedup in droves to peep under-produced movies with dismal acting. I justgot the sense that people were tired of seeing and hearing the same ole-same ole. Whether one articulates it or not, ghetto stereotypes beingmass marketed to the mainstream while using people from the hood as itsvalidation and backdrop has played itself out. It was interesting to watch the 50 Cent/ Interscope media juggernautwork overtime applying what I’m sure executive thought was the ‘magicformula’. First, we had the creation of controversy. 50 Cent did justabout everything you could think of to bring attention to himself and bydefault, his movie. He went so far as to dis Kanye West not once buttwice. He noted that Kanye was conscious because of 50 Cent. Then helambasted him for speaking out against President Bush. 50’s remarkssuggested that he was taking up for Mr. Bush and how he handledHurricane Katrina If that wasn’t enough , we had the controversial billboards of 50holding a gun which I think were deliberately placed in certaincommunities with the intention of enraging local activists who wouldcall for boycotts and thus bring more attention to the movie. I say thisbecause in places like South Central LA organizations like ProjectIslamic Hope have been consistent about protesting offensive material inthe past. Snoop Dogg’s ‘Girls Gone Wild’, Ice Cube’s ‘Player’s Club’,and Bill Bellany’s ‘How to Be a Player’ have all been protested by PIHleader Nagee Ali and his group for resurrecting nasty stereotypes viamarketing campaigns targeting the hood. There’s no way that executivesat Paramount pictures who backed ‘Get Rich or Die Trying’, did not knowthat an artist like 50 Cent holding a gun in a billboard would not sparka protest which received national attention. The fight to get rid of50’s billboards did just that –it sparked anational debate which 50tried to ride in his favor. Just looking at how 50 has thrived oncontroversy in the past, it seemed like what ever objections anyone hadwould be neatly fitted into the overall marketing scheme of the movie.This time it didn’t work. Many of the billboards were pulled and while50 tried to say such activities would only help his film, the vibe onthe streets in many communities was good riddance’. 50 tried to ride out the other controversies that added more fuel to themarketing fire. First, we had the killing of a 30 year man inPittsburgh, PA during the showing of the film. This prompted LoewsTheater in that area to pull the movie. In Providence, R.I. a huge meleebroke out prompting theater owners in that are to pull the flick. In thepast such events would’ve generated more interest and got the massesclamoring to see what all the commotion was about. Think back to thefatal gang shootings at showings of the movie ‘Colors’ back in the early90s as a prime example.This time around it didn’t work. ‘Get Rich or Die Trying’ only netted 12 million dollars this weekend.That has got to be a major disappointment when you take into account allthe money that was sunk into marketing and the movie opened up on aWednesday as opposed to Friday as is the case with most movies. So thatmeans ‘Get Rich or Die Trying’ netted 12 million dollars over a 5 dayperiod. That is pretty dismal when you compare that to the 34 milliontaken in by movie’s like ‘Chicken Little’ which didn’t have a hugemulti-level media blitz and opened up on Friday. It has to bedisappointing when you take into account that 50 has two hot songs,“Hustler’s Ambition’ and ‘Window Shopper’ being played damn near everyhour on the hour off the new soundtrack for the movie. So what does all this mean? Is this a strike against 50 Cent or thecontroversial laden pimp, player, gangsta genre of music he has come tobest epitomize? For many of us within Hip Hop, it suggests that folksare tired of the same ole stereotypes being packaged, marketed andshipped to our communities all around the world. Maore and more peopleare stepping up and saying ‘enough is enough’. We should note that this crack in the façade didn’t start with ‘Get Richor Die Trying’. We saw similar outcomes with the movie ‘Hustle andFlow’. Yes, it was good movie. Actor Terrance Howard and rapper Ludacrisheld it down on screen, but at the end of the day, folks from the hoodweren’t checking for the flick in spite of the big media blitz. Thegeneral consensus was ‘How many pimp stories do we have to see?’. Initially it seemed like ‘Hustle and Flow’ was a ghetto movie beingmarketed to folks in the suburbs. The hood and the rap talent was usedas validation that what was on screen was real. I recall seeing allthese mainstream critics fawning over the movie and giving it highpraise. I recall hearing comments like ‘This is how life is in thehood’. However, folks in many of the hoods I came across were less thenimpressed. Not only did they find the story totally unrealistic, it wasjust plain ole tired. It was ‘been there done that’ what’s next? What’s next is something with more substance. People are looking forheartfelt passion and a willingness to totally engage the audience.People are looking for artists to break out the marketing mode wherethey treat their audience as statistics to be conquered and instead seethem as human beings that they seek to entertain. I think Phonte fromthe group Little Brother, put it best when he said Hip Hop is lookingfor more ‘grown up’ conversations. He recently explained that at 26 hewas no longer interested in rapping about street life fantasies. He andhis group want to explore things that touch the soul. Similar sentiments were echoed by Kanye West as he and John Brion workedon his album ‘Late Registration’. We also heard this desire to ‘gothere’ and connect to the audience by underground favorite Slug fromMinneapolis based Atmosphere. We are now starting to see this change not just by the artist, but bythe audience itself. For example, last week in LA, Supernatural sold outhis album release party at the Key Club on Sunset. Long considered anartist who fits the backpack vein, not only did Supernatural have toturn away people, the make up of the crowd was one that you would expectto see at a Snoop Dogg show. Instead of the usual dominance of Asian andwhite kids, you saw over half the crowd from the hood. It was point thatdid not go unnoticed by artists like Charli 2na of Jurassic 5 whoaddressed the issue on stage. He expressed how dope it was to not onlyto see Supernatural sell out a show, but to also finally see the hoodcome around to this style of music. An opening act for Supernatural setthings off and underscored the vibe of the night by enthusiasticallyasking the crowd if they were ready to hear some ‘conscious hip hop’.The deafening roar from the audience said to everybody a new day had come. Another case in point was the at Spelman college. MC Lyte, Yo-Yo, Saltand Da Brat put on an evening discussion about negative images in HipHop. The Cosby auditorium was completely packed and campus officials hadto open up an overflow auditorium which was also packed. For more thenthree hours we heard heartfelt testimony from audience members and theaforementioned artists saying that change is needed. Hip Hop had beenhijacked by corporation who think they have a formula for dispensing it. Many of those executives are in for a rude surprise. The discussionended with the women of Spelman demanding to know who the executiveswere for big Radio chains like Radio One and BET. Their intention was tospark a letter writing campaign and protest that the US has yet to see.The women were more then upset when they learned that some of theoutlets that they are most offended by are actually run by womenincluding BET’s Uncut Program. People were puzzled as to why women incharge would turn around and allow so many negative images andstereotypes come through on their watch. While the women of Spelman are speaking out, up north in the nation’scapitol is Howard University. This is probably one of the most wellknown Black colleges in the country and was home to P-Diddy. This iswhere he got his start promoting parties while he was a student.Students there have grown tired of all the 50 Cent style music and havebanded together to launch a media network. The announcement was madelast week. Yes, change is coming. Lets just hope those of us in Hip Hop who wish tosee things improve do not sit idly by and allow others to do all thework. Lets all take steps both in our personal and professional lives toinsist upon material that speaks to our hearts and souls and notsomebody’s pocketbook.GUN-TOTING 50 CAN’T BEAT A LITTLE CHICKENThe sky falls on ‘Get Rich or Die Tryin’†at boxoffice; rapper responds to shooting in Pittsburgh.courtesy of www.eurweb.com *With all of the protests, hype and presscoverage preceding Wednesday’s opening of50 Cent’s “Get Rich or Die Tryin’,†the film onlymanaged to place fourth at the box office overthe weekend on sales of $12.5 million. Itscumulative gross since Wednesday is $18.2 million. However, those numbers are swallowed byDisney’s “Chicken Little,†which earned $32million over the weekend to remain box office champ.“Zathura†and “Derailed†earn second and third place. During an appearance on ABC’s “The Viewâ€Friday to promote his film debut, 50 Centexpressed sorrow over the shooting death of30-year-old Shelton Flowers Wednesday at aPittsburgh movie theater following a showingof the movie. Allegheny County police said Flowers hadjust watched the film and got into a confrontationwith three men in the bathroom. A fight ensuedand spilled out into the concessions area,where Flowers was shot at least three times,police said. "I feel for the victim's family in this situation,"said 50, who appeared on “The View†with hisco-star Joy Bryant. "But you know, theseweren't kids. This was a 30-year-old man(who) had a dispute with three other guys." No one has been arrested in the incident,and it was not known what film the three menhad seen. In any case, the vice president ofmarketing for Loews Corp., John McCauley,said the company decided to pull the filmfrom its theater immediately during theinvestigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedostyle Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 hell yes. down with this wanksta crap. i was listening to a song on the radio today cuz i thought i would give it a chance. think it was a mariah carey song where some guy was "i'll --- you in the east, i'll ---- you in the west, ill ---- you in miami" because of course it was edited. i now know i was wrong in giving the radio a second chance that usher movie called "in the mix" looks fuckin gay too. let's see how many dj's we can shove into your face in 30 seconds since if its got a dj it's bound to rake in money right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxander Posted November 17, 2005 Author Share Posted November 17, 2005 since if its got a dj it's bound to rake in money right?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> If that were the case, this board, asis & soulstrut would all be made of platinum.. Straight up, holy grail style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedostyle Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 and if that were the case we'd all be pompous ass holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnice Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$a!n+ Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 since if its got a dj it's bound to rake in money right?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> If that were the case, this board, asis & soulstrut would all be made of platinum.. Straight up, holy grail style.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was sensing <sarcasm></sarcasm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homecounties Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Yay, I can't wait til gay bay area student rap makes a comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxander Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 Homecounties, we never had that happen here.... (in the USA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Smerph Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I hate 50 cent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 i hate all this gangsta rap shit, when i say i like hiphop i get dirty looks, and they all say oh 50 cent then when real hiphop is dj vadim/ dj shadow and all the other good, realistic hiphop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnice Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 (edited) all hip hop is real whether its commercial or Hardcore. A good Hip Hop tune is a good hip hop tune,it doesn't matter who the fuck made it.Gangsta Rap was a big part of hip hop,So to say you hate a certain element of it means u don't like Hip Hop you just like selected bits.I Love Hip Hop I dont particularly like crunk but now and again i'll hear a good Tune,So i wouldn't say i hate it.I don't really listen to UK Hip Hop doesnt mean i don't like it. I really hate people who say i like hip hop but hate etc.. Cambian this isnt directly aimed at YOU. ITS AIMED AT ALL HATERS I've listened to hip hop in all its forms since i was 11,im 33 now so i feel i can justify what ive said. Edited November 18, 2005 by mattnice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 thats ok mattnice i understand what ur saying i enjoy certain parts of everytihng but it does depend on my mood, probly hate is too much of a strong word but some just winds me up a lil, i think the hate i feel is when u get catgorised by general ppl when u say u like hiphop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homecounties Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Mattnice is onpoint. Turntablists hating on what they like to call 'gansta rap' is a bigger cliche then can be found on any 50 cent track. 'when real hiphop is dj vadim/ dj shadow and all the other good, realistic hiphop' oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnice Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 hell yeah [damn im pissed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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