Steve Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Did you register your Sygate Dee? If you did, they email you the link to the latest version of the main program. No I didn't mate, I'm still using build 2525 which works great for me. I'm off to search for Kapersky. Is there any particular version I should test? This is the one I got mate....... http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1813/KAV5.torrent It's 9MB and includes the key which should keep it registered until August next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 its ok. i dont download much by the way of .exe's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 at work i need to avoid pirate software too.and the company is too stingy to buy any more software. so housecall will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 What about those viruses you had a while ago though Grae? You had a couple of trojans you got simply by looking at a webpage right? I think using Housecall alone is just wasting time and leaves you open to being infected via other methods than exe files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Did you register your Sygate Dee? If you did, they email you the link to the latest version of the main program.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> No I didn't mate, I'm still using build 2525 which works great for me. I'm off to search for Kapersky. Is there any particular version I should test?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is the one I got mate....... http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1813/KAV5.torrent It's 9MB and includes the key which should keep it registered until August next year.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> OK, I got something similar. BTW, do you know how good Kaspersky Anti-Hacker (firewall) is? It's also on Suprnova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 yeh thats where that shredder program comes in!housecall just took me under a minute to fully load too. i've never had a virus that has been any more than a little annoyance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Dee - I dunno mate. I think I'm gonna stick with Sygate but if you try it, let me know what it's like. Grae - I'm not talking about that popup you were getting. I'm talking about the other trojan you had a while ago. Saying you've never had a virus that wasn't more than an annoyance doesn't mean you won't get one that eats all your data in the future. If you get one from a webpage then you're fecked. It'll be running and you won't even know. There are still exploits in Java that allow the remote downloading and executing of files. I went to a site just the other day that tried to infect me with a trojan called downloader.small. You should be pro-active about it, not worry about removing it after it's happened because then it might be too late. It's up to you, but I think you're leaving your PCs open to being attacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 the network at work is tight.theres no floppy drives and no one has the rights to install stuff, or change important/system files. the email protection stops shit coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 I'm not talking about at work dufus! I'm gonna send you daily viruses at home now to infect you. BTW - any user can run regedit at work. I meant to tell you that a while ago, although I doubt anyone there would even know what regedit was apart from you guys in IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Kaspersky's looking alright man, it scanned my 160 GB drive (which is about half full) in 16 minutes. Only problem I have is this, which looks a bit dodgy to me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Yeah that's cos you don't double click that file. I did the same thing mate. You gotta start Kaspersky up, click on the Support tab, then License Keys and then Add. Then browse to that key and the program will become licensed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Right. That confused me. The key is already added anyway, jsut found out after trying what you told me. Nice AV man, cheers for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I'm not talking about at work dufus! I'm gonna send you daily viruses at home now to infect you. BTW - any user can run regedit at work. I meant to tell you that a while ago, although I doubt anyone there would even know what regedit was apart from you guys in IT.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeh anybody can run regedit and regedt32, but only admins can actually make changes to the local / machine keys. there is permissions on the sections.for some stuff designed for NT4, i have to edit the permissions in regedt32 to make it run on windows 2000. send me your best / worst viruses. i'll run em and see what they do.the bad ones were the ones that destroy the boot sector / table of contents. nowadays viri seem to be all about mass mailers / dialup hijackers / popups spyware etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 There's still a few damaging viruses about. There's a good one that eats all audio and video files on your machine and even another variant of the old Chernobyl one that overwrites your BIOS chip and makes your PC useless. You want me to send you those to test out? Hehe. Put it this way. I was using NOD32 before and it slowed my PC down a little so I disabled the active part of the scanning. I was just scanning files after I downloaded them. I was browsing the net for a bit the other night and then I came here. I was discussing those Hijack This! logs with someone and I ran the program on my own machine. There were two "RUN" registry entries that related to some .mht files in the temporary internet folder. I scanned my PC with NOD32 and they were viruses. NOD32 also found a Java class called "Blackbox" in the Java folder that was also a virus. These appeared just from looking at webpages where I'd been searching for an mp3. Some of the sites I'd been looking at were illegal mp3 sites and one or more of those obviously infected me. If I'd rebooted then the viruses would have activated. One of them was the one that attempts to hijack WMP and uses the security flaw in it to download and execute code. It would have failed because my firewall would have got it, but it fucks WMP totally in the process. As you can't uninstall WMP the only thing to do is either system restore, which I have disabled, or format. What if the viruses were the ones that delete files or ruin my system? Housecall wouldn't help me then. Your attitude that "I know about computers therefore I'm safe to assume nothing bad will happen" is wrong mate. Why even take the risk of losing all your data? I just don't understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i've been ok so far!!!and your attitude that "i work in IT therefore should be up on safe web browsing" is wrong. i'm only a lowly programmer. you know more about web security and stuff than i do.i can manage and set up a local area network, install and configure servers etc, but have had little exposure to web security, and it's ins and outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yeah but again, "I've been OK so far" is just wrong - everyone who has ever got a virus was "OK so far" up the point they got it right? I'm not concerned with Norpak, just with your home PCs. It would be shit if you were almost done making a really lengthy scratch composition or mix and then you lost it cos you got a virus. Talking of which, did you ever finish that track you started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i think i have been ok so far because i dont download much other than mp3's. i didnt finish that track yet!!!!but i will. which av prog should i use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i dont know of any illegal mp3 sites either. i just use kazaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 Go for one that's low in resources. I'd say either NOD32, F-Prot or Kaspersky. Just set it up and forget about it. F-Prot only uses a couple of meg of system memory. I use Kaspersky on the high speed settings and it's pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Used to use NOD32 until yesterday, but I'm liking Kaspersky a lot since Sigmazizzle recommended it. Very nice software, but I could have happily lived with NOD32 v2. I'll stick with Kaspersky for now and see how it goes. It already found a virus (something dodgy I downloaded) last night as a test. BTW, Kaspersky is using 9,504k resources according to Task Man. While it's not gonna be felt on this A64 rig one bit, maybe I wouldn't be so keen to use it on a less powerful system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 Torrents: F-PROT KASPERSKY NOD32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 Used to use NOD32 until yesterday, but I'm liking Kaspersky a lot since Sigmazizzle recommended it. Very nice software, but I could have happily lived with NOD32 v2. I'll stick with Kaspersky for now and see how it goes. It already found a virus (something dodgy I downloaded) last night as a test. BTW, Kaspersky is using 9,504k resources according to Task Man. While it's not gonna be felt on this A64 rig one bit, maybe I wouldn't be so keen to use it on a less powerful system. Yeah it uses a little less then 9MB. It's the active scanning that's fast for me though because even though NOD is very light on resources, it still seemed to lag things on my slowish system. F-Prot only uses 2MB of RAM so that's even better for people with older systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yeah, definately. How come it's so light, no real-time protection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yeah it has but apparently it doesn't go as deep as some of the others. The guy who recommended Kaspersky to me uses F-Prot as his active scanner and Kaspersky as his on demand scanner but I can't be bothered with two different programs. I suppose if you wanna get the best out of your machine then that would be the way to go but I can't see 7MB of RAM making a great deal of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 I gotta sing the praises of Kaspersky again! There's a new trojan which is a variant of Backdoor.Rbot.gen, a right nasty little fucker that will screw your machine up big time. It's packed 3 times with Rar SFX, Morphine, and finally UPX in an attempt to hide itself. Currently, none of the other big players in the AV field pick this up except KAV. It's been found in a couple of keygens included with torrents on Suprnova so beware! If your firewall starts popping up that a program is trying to access 167.206.3.245 on port 53 then you have it and you're buggered. If you have no firewall then get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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