d00ban Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 So, I think it was the first SSS we had in Bristol and we were all round Pete's house having a scratch and a smoke (and watching showgirls??)... Any way, I remember thinking how sweet it was scratching on his Serato. It sounded exactly the same as scratching with a normal record, except it didn't even skip, so in a way it was even better! Any who, at home on my TTM57 it never felt the same, so I guessed it must have been the interface. I think he had a Rane 62 which is obviously an updated version. Any way, at the club I play at they got an SL4 and the scratching still doesn't feel / sound the same. It feels and sounds a bit digital where as Pete's set up didn't. What do you think it is? I'm using WAV (obviously) and have set all the settings to have the lowest latency etc... May be I've just got a shite computer? Any ideas? Ya'll know what I'm talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Make sure in the calibration you don't set it too far to either side. Too far to the right (I think, maybe left) will make it so as soon as you do a drag, the signal cuts out and the sample stops moving. Too far the other way causes the sample to slowly creep around and move even if you're holding it still because it's too sensitive and picking up room vibrations. New SL boxes I believe have the same guts as the 62 so should perform similarly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyHiams Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Interesting. I had an old traktor scratch duo audio 4 set up but switched to a z2 recently. The z2 performs far better, but I use MP3 mostly. What's the difference with wav files? I've read this somewhere before about this but never really felt the need to explore it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyHiams Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Interesting. I had an old traktor scratch duo audio 4 set up but switched to a z2 recently. The z2 performs far better, but I use MP3 mostly. What's the difference with wav files I assume the sound quality is better? I've read this somewhere before about this but never really felt the need to explore it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) SSL or SDJ? SDJ has pitch'n time pack which makes it better than itself without. No idea how good against SSL but maybe this is the piece you missed in the puzzle... Edited June 11, 2016 by Mutis Mayfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Yeah I don't have pitch'n time. Not sure Pete had pitch'n time though? Can any one who knows him ask him? I don't have him on social media any where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Pitch n time only hurts scratching, that's def not the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 pretty sure sdj pitch n time didn't exist at the time of the first Bristol SSS anyway dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Think that was it, I hadn't taken key lock off. I've left the turntables now though so can't experiment. Guess that must have beenit though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 nooban 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest It'sPhilFromThursdays Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 More importantly, I'd like to confirm that we did indeed have Showgirls on, partly as i quite rightly insisted that it's unintentionally super funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Oh, just turn it off, wait 30 sec, and then turn it back on again. If that doesn't work, then do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 The best bit is when a random troop of monkeys randomly charge through the Showgirls' dressing room. No context, no explanation. Honourable mention to the swimming pool sex scene/handicapped splashy fit though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Pitch n time only hurts scratching, that's def not the problem.pretty sure sdj pitch n time didn't exist at the time of the first Bristol SSS anyway dudeSo if it was SSL and we are compare it with actual SDJ with pitch'n time we could find some differences... Knowing the setups (hard/soft) to find what was making it "best". Sad to know Pitch' time fucks scratching. Thanks for point it to me, I will share the knowledge next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubba Dutchdj Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Oh, just turn it off, wait 30 sec, and then turn it back on again. If that doesn't work, then do it again. Standard Traktor fix, that said 9 out of 10 times after restarting I then realise it was user error, again..... God dam stonner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Any way, at the club I play at they got an SL4 and the scratching still doesn't feel / sound the same. It feels and sounds a bit digital where as Pete's set up didn't. What do you think it is? I'm using WAV (obviously) and have set all the settings to have the lowest latency etc... May be I've just got a shite computer? Also some difference in ADDA converters between SL1/62 and the rest of the interfaces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Pitch n time only hurts scratching, that's def not the problem.pretty sure sdj pitch n time didn't exist at the time of the first Bristol SSS anyway dude So if it was SSL and we are compare it with actual SDJ with pitch'n time we could find some differences... Knowing the setups (hard/soft) to find what was making it "best". Sad to know Pitch' time fucks scratching. Thanks for point it to me, I will share the knowledge next time Yea it's REALLY good at keeping music in key and time stretching, but it tries to also correct the pitch for your scratching aggressively, so you get weird pops and glitches a fair bit. You wouldn't notice for cuts during mixes, but you would for hardcore cutting or routines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebzer Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 First of all, try activate Vinyl Distortion by hitting ALT+SHIFT+click on the outer circle of the spinning wheel on your scratching deck. Next, as Vekked said, check your Threshold settings by going into the SETUP and then in the calibration screen. Your threshold for home scratching should be on the far left. Also, get a fresh pair of records & needles. Serato (both SSL +SDJ) is notorious for not going well along with average record wear. Last but not least, you will need the best possible laptop you can get. The stronger the machine, the better the scratch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 make sure you calibrate properly and regulary - the needles and record wear all change the sound of the time code as they wear so that will affect the sound. a good fast mac is the highest recommended computer to use for serato. but i don't like scratching on serato at the best of times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 First of all, try activate Vinyl Distortion by hitting ALT+SHIFT+click on the outer circle of the spinning wheel on your scratching deck. Next, as Vekked said, check your Threshold settings by going into the SETUP and then in the calibration screen. Your threshold for home scratching should be on the far left. Also, get a fresh pair of records & needles. Serato (both SSL +SDJ) is notorious for not going well along with average record wear. Last but not least, you will need the best possible laptop you can get. The stronger the machine, the better the scratch. Vinyl distortion? Never heard of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 doobs this is why people invented vinyl! scratching on dvs is wack! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I've always been strictly on vinyl, but I've used it at friend's houses with widely varying results. It used to be that I'd cut on their setup and there was enough lag to mess with me. I could do slower chirps but stuff like one-click flares and twiddles were just not coming off right because of the lag. The explanation I always got (and this is experienced, very dope scratchers) was that your brain adjusts for the lag and it takes a second to compensate when switching from vinyl to DVS. But as time has gone on they've said it turns out the set-up is really important. Last time I cut on DVS, my friend had gone to a Mac and it was pretty damn close to the real thing for me. Any lag was very minimal and I was like "okay, I can deal with this!". That being said, he still typically uses real vinyl for cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELGEE Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I can never get used to the feel and weight of DVS vinyl, I know there isn't much difference compared to most scratch records but if o was blindfolded I would still notice the difference. Is this just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekked Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I can never get used to the feel and weight of DVS vinyl, I know there isn't much difference compared to most scratch records but if o was blindfolded I would still notice the difference. Is this just me? There's variation in them. All vinyl has different feels even, and I notice DVS vinyl feels different even depending on the colour you get, or special editions or whatever... For ages I stuck with transparent purple cuz they felt best to me, but they stopped doing them, now I've been all over the map looking for them. I think the green Hifana ones that were vinyl on 1 side, Serato on the other were really light too... you just gotta try different pressings and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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