Guest rasteri Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yeah, you're going to want to watch this : https://www.facebook.com/fretlessfader/videos/1701176903495287 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Damn. So it looks like he's figured how to do it without gutting the mixer, other than removing the faders? Sick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Yup, the mixer is essentially stock It works on all mixers that can take a mini innofader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Right - I'm so down for getting one of these!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Nice. I've always been a big fan of John. I'm glad he's pulling this off. I was starting to wonder after a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Ugh. I wish he'd start selling these already! TAKE MY DAMN MONEY ALREADY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Nice. I've always been a big fan of John. I'm glad he's pulling this off. I was starting to wonder after a while Yeah this has been something like a decade in the making, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wax inspektor Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 brilliant!! when will it be available for the masses? I love the "put on top" idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 ohhhhhh i totally missed the fact it wasnt IN the mixer like before. thats sick. I do feel sorry for all those dope 06's that have been sacrificed for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savwar Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 to be honest, except for woodys, because everything he does is amazing, none of these videos have impressed me, and i hope i don't start seeing a million shit videos like all the rest so far. Stupid cover versions that could be done better on a stylophone.or like a poor version of a talkbox setting on a shitty keyboard. in most of them, manipulation of the record is completely redundant. the John beez one's are ok i guess... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Yeah, I'm sort of with Savwar... I like innovation and I'm glad this is happening, but whiney tone-karaoke needs to be the clumsy, slightly embarrasing start point for me. Not the end product. Still, it's early days and people won't get better without practice I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 yup, expect a barrage of bedroom happy birthday-esque covers to come soon. owning one of these isn't going to make you instantly musical unless you already have a good grasp of melody playing on another instrument. however, this is sick that this is coming out. I'm very tempted to invest in it but I honestly don't know if I'd be using it enough to warrant buying a pdx and the fader when I can produce sounds for a routine/track and set them to cue points and achieve a similar sound but that approach is of course obviously limited by the restrictions of having to prepare notes and not being jam friendly in any key like with the fretless fader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Can't wait to hear all the people doing updated 8ball routines with these. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I was talking to Woody last year and he bemoaned the fact that most C1 users essentially use it as a shitty mono synth. I reckon once he gets a hold of an FF he'll do some awesome stuff with it though, it frees up the record hand. I have a few ideas up my sleeve that I hope to demonstrate once I get my prototype through 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I'm not all that big a fan of using it like a glorified keyboard either but I also think people need to realize you can do so much more than that. I like what Teeko and John do, but that's not how I would use it and it's not usually how I use my C1. I mainly use the C1 to flip much shorter samples. This is a lot closer to the mark for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWe412hSLiU Or, listen to all the pitch shifting they do on scratch nerds 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 That's always been the issue for me - trying to make a turntable into another instrument (i.e. a monosynth) is an utterly pointless excercise. What a turntable can do is something NO other instrument can do, so I want people to build on THAT. If the fretless fader helps that, I'm 100% for it; if people use it to make bad versions of other instruments: fuck it in its fretless face. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 however, this is sick that this is coming out. I'm very tempted to invest in it but I honestly don't know if I'd be using it enough to warrant buying a pdx and the fader when I can produce sounds for a routine/track and set them to cue points and achieve a similar sound but that approach is of course obviously limited by the restrictions of having to prepare notes and not being jam friendly in any key like with the fretless fader. I should have mentioned, you can map the fretless fader to the pitch shift control in traktor (and probably serato too) so you can use this with any turntable. For some uses that might be preferable to a MIDI turntable as it keeps a constant tempo, perhaps you could even beat juggle with this thing I expect you could also wire it up to something like a whammy pedal if you didn't want to use a computer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Obviously my sentiments on the kind of music he's working with (and therefore what he's using the fader for) are well known, but FUCK ME - that video makes me want to stab the ears of innocent creatures!Sorry. I know it's what some people dig. I should perhaps keep quiet about this kind of shit, but that's not likely is it?Seriously, it sounds like somebody thought "you know, I bet we could make an even worse version of the horrific ascending sine wave on JJ+FP's "Summertime" if we really tried" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Woah Pete lets not fight but that Kool & Gang sine wave is crazy dope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Precise musical tonality is definitely the great unexplored territory in scratching, it's just got to be done right. As ever, Woody's use of this really does it for me. The other big thing for me is switching from whiney tones to sounds with an attack left intact. The day Paul mapped a midi keyboard to not only change his PDX's platter speed, but retrigger the sound changed everything for me. Instantly so much more musical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 yeah I think hating on that rising tone in summer madness is pretty much treason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Let's just everybody take a sec and calm down here before shots get fired at Funky Worm. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Lol - sorry gents... I fucking hate that shit. Surely this is no surprise. When GZA claimed to be "the dirtiest thing in sight" he was acknowledging the intangible nature of my production preferences. If he hadn't been directly referencing that, he would've just left it at "I'm the dirtiest thing." It's hard to imagine anything more clean than a completely untouched pure sine wave - and a major scale upper register one at that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 It's not a sine wave anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Something a bit buzzier perhaps? Saw? Triangle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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