d00ban Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yo, so I've been confused by this track for a while, I need someone who is experienced in sample flipping to clear my mind up here. Is Kaytranada in this track making most of the beat fit the sample (in terms of bassline, pads and arp which come in later too) or is he repitching the sample to fit the new bassline he made or a clever combination of both? I guess at the start it just sounds like he's triggering the samples at the start but then he does some more crazy pitching stuff at 39 seconds and on. http://www.whosampled.com/sample/235319/Kaytranada-At-All-Chaka-Khan-I-Know-You,-I-Live-You-(Reprise)/ Hopefully that even makes sense... I might try and recreate the track but got a nasty feeling I'd have no clue how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Doob & Kaytranada is the new Jon & Buddy Peace. with my incredibly limited knowledge, i'd guess he just gets the vocal, does that command where you put it in a midi keyboard and every key has a sped up or slowed down pitch (with the original in the middle usually) and then just pressed whatever pitch he felt sounded good. bosh. 5min max. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I agree with Jimmy. I think he's sampled the original single note(s) and re-pitched them to his needs. After a quick listen (and with limited musical ear) I think the beat uses some of the same notes, but not all. Either it's in the same key as the original and he's used less (or different) notes from the same scale, or he's perhaps used the sampled notes at there original pitching and played his own scale from there that includes a few common notes. Someone who plays instruments or has a really good ear could no doubt give a more reliable and informed answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericuk Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 To echo Jimbo, I think he's just created a hit point and wacked it in Kontact (or something similar) to give him the different pitches. There is lots of SC compression so that gives the sample attack a bit of softness and probably reduces the harshness of the repitching. It's a nice little track and Im pretty certain he's added the synths and the nice arps. musical dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Funksmith Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I agree with everyone at all times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 OK just wanted to confirm. I've downloaded the orig track and am going to see what I can do to recreate it, just as a project yagetme. Wish I had a better ear for music, when ever I try to do something like that it sounds shit and out of tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You need to be flipping the type of tune that you'd take the piss out of me for liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 all i know is that chaka kahn album has some dope samples and breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 have you got ableton live 9? if so, their audio to midi converter is usually pretty spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Yeah man I do. Not sure how accurate I've found it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayc Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I've thought about this track before as well. I was thinking he has just pitched it and added some sort of modulation at the start of the hits but the point about side chain is a good one. the fact the hits of her voice get quicker and slower would say to meh has just spread the sample over the keyboard or pads then used the same notes for the bass etc. i try and do something similar. I'm shit at music and have used the audio to midi converter in ableton for pretty much every bass line i have ever done even though i only have a trial of ableton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yeah it's deffo a clever combination of both (now I know a bit more about sampling). I think he was lucky that he got a nice sample that he could re-pitch without it sounding shite. That's the problem I run into a lot when trying this, it just sounds corny to do that sometimes. Didn't know you did you baselines in Ableton that way! Fair enough, I think Ableton is much better set up for that shit than maschine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 have you got ableton live 9? if so, their audio to midi converter is usually pretty spot onThis. Very much so. This feature is pretty much my favouirite innovation in production software for as long as I can remember. I have zero musical training so often the hardest thing for me to work out is what root note the sample I'm chopping up is. By using the "Convert to MIDI melody" facility within Ableton I can see what note it is, then use that as the basis for playing with things that will fit alongside the sample. This is the 21st century version of "my boy ____________ came in a laid down some bass guitar for the track" - now it's "my software Ableton helped me figure out what key it was in so I could play that shit for myself" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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