RSI etc..

[chile]

if you have shit going on with yer hands or even if you dont, its worth reading up stretches you can perform to keep things good..

http://www.handhealthresources.com/repetitive_injuries.htm

 

 

I had pretty bad pain in me hand from scratching earlier so i tried the ulnar nerve glide listed in the link below and the pain totally disappeared. I dont think ive experienced a stretch on the front of me forearm before like that.

 

http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions%20Pages/Exercises.htm

[Dubba Dutchdj]

<p>Nice one for sharing this Chile.<br />

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Thanks to my work I'm researching remedies to help sort out my knackered knuckles. I'm a hard flooring contractor, most mornings are spent ripping up concrete and layers of commercial vinyl by hand or large vibrating tools, just gripping a troul or steering wheel for a few hours fucking hurts now.</p>

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Gonna give these stretches and techniques a go but a career change is needed for me if I ever wanna get back in to regular intense practise sessions.</p>

[Guest It'sPhilFromThursdays]

Nice one, fellow spack hand sufferer. This looks like damn good stuff. It backs up what i was saying about how being double jointed is not so good, i.e. overstretching = bad for you.

 

I knew some of these from the myriad of physio i've done, but there's tons of new stuff for me to try.

[Guest Symatic]

Nice one dude will have to try these

[chile]

this article might help too.. mentions a lot of misconceptions about RSI treatment methods and covers the new understanding on it. also it mentions a new treatment called active release therapy (ART) from america. from what i can tell on google theres a place in london you can get it done though if you live near there. no idea if its available on NHS, but its meant to be one of the best new treatments and its non invasive.

 

http://www.berklee.edu/bt/142/overuse_injuries.html

 

ART and soft tissue mobilization are meant to be the best at least for tendinosis

[Dubba Dutchdj]

this article might help too..

Interesting to read about carpal tunnel misdiagnosis.

 

Having experienced what you have to go through to get water on the knee, it's crazy to think the amount of intense practise you would have to endure to suffer from inflamed hands. Definitely gonna take good stock of all this info, thanks again for posting the links.

 

try to avoid fatty meats, potato chips, bacon, and pizza.

Shit!

[Ritchie T]

I fucked my forearm extensor muscles on my record (left) hand from practising too much (not from wanking ). I put it down to trying to teach my bad hand to do really small and precise record movements like tears etc. I didn't scratch for nearly a year but it was still fucked. I did all the stretches the physio said for months, but it seemed to make it worse if anything.

 

One day I read an article about foam rollers because I'm also trying to get my knee better after an op. The roller worked wonders on my leg muscles so I thought I'd try it on the forearm. 3 weeks later I was scratching again, although nothing too stressful. Since then it's gone from strength to strength, and I can pretty much do anything I did before without pain. I foam roll before and after every session religiously and it definitely works. I still get pain, but it's nowhere near what it was and it goes after a day. I also use one of these before and after: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Omni-Massage-Roller-Ball-Various/dp/B000ZJ3WEM

 

The roller seemed to get rid of the scar tissue you get with an overuse injury. It's saved my life! Get rolling!

[chile]

yeah me mate mentioned myofacial release a few weeks ago where u use a rolling pin or something similar on the forearm, sounds similar if not the same as what you describe. for me the nerve stretches seem to have helped a fair bit. cant really comment on the rolling thing as i havnt done it very much yet. for years i was pretty clueless on this stuff but over the past 6 months ive started to take a more active approach with researching treatments as this isnt something i want to have to accept if there are treatments available.

 

I got a flextend glove a few months back which ive found helps a fair bit. only problem is you can only buy them from the states so youd have to pay import tax i guess from uk. can do quite a lot of exercises on it specifically for RSI conditions... youtube geezer called URehab has a lot of tutorial videos for specific exercises using it. Ultrasounds also pretty good for relieving pain after a session - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Novasonic-Popular/dp/B001FNYSEU

 

things like push ups too i find really help. i do 300 push ups in reps of 50 every few days.. i find if i have pain before i start exercising it disappears pretty quickly. Skipping also helps in the same way.. ive read that 30 mins cardio a day helps with RSI as it increases the blood circulation. There are wrist weight exercises too which seem to be helping me at the moment -

 

[Guest It'sPhilFromThursdays]

I've been doing those stretches and have found they help a ton, so cheers for putting them up. All this stuff has been really helpful.

 

I'd say you are spot on about not just accepting your condition, cos there was points where i was told repeatedly by doctors and physios to just to give up scratching and i had such a long period where it seemed like they were right, but it just seemed unacceptable. I just couldn't give up on it cos it means so much to me. Even though i still get a bit of gyp it's so much better than it was and if i'm mindful of taking care of myself and watch what i eat it feels like i can do this for the rest of my life (i say that hopefully, obviously i don't know what the future might bring).

 

I'm suprised that push ups are good cos whenever i've done them they seem to fuck me even more, but maybe my technique is just shitty. My arms are puny as though.

 

My main tips that i've found help are:

 

-Wear a long sleaved top to keep the arms warm when scratching

 

-I read that the latest sports physios tips is that they recommend to only stretch after activity and to warm up by gentley doing the activity you will be doing reather than stretching. And warm down doing the same activity then stretch. That really helps, i think.

[chile]

oh yeah the way i do push ups is i'll put my hands into fists instead of having them flat palm.. puts less strain on the wrist and your tendons and nerves have easy access through the carpel tunnel since your wrists in neutral.

 

yeah a nurse a few years back said to me 'why dont you just give up' and i did sort of give up for about 2 years because i lost hope. I think its important though to keep going with something if you enjoy it and the more you research things the more options you discover.. The docs when i first went to them about my hand problems just told me there wasnt much they could do apart tell me to rest and prescribe anti inflammatories. its a good thing the internet exists or id still trust my doctors knowledge on this and a lot of the time its like you have to pry information out of them or pressure them into action for them to refer you to a specialist etc

[Kian]

I've been skrarching for 13 years, piano for 10 years and typing since high school. I work in the IT field and know my fingers will fall off soon at any given time. But will I quit skrarching? negro please

[Ritchie T]

I've been doing those stretches and have found they help a ton, so cheers for putting them up. All this stuff has been really helpful.

 

I'd say you are spot on about not just accepting your condition, cos there was points where i was told repeatedly by doctors and physios to just to give up scratching and i had such a long period where it seemed like they were right, but it just seemed unacceptable. I just couldn't give up on it cos it means so much to me. Even though i still get a bit of gyp it's so much better than it was and if i'm mindful of taking care of myself and watch what i eat it feels like i can do this for the rest of my life (i say that hopefully, obviously i don't know what the future might bring).

 

I'm suprised that push ups are good cos whenever i've done them they seem to fuck me even more, but maybe my technique is just shitty. My arms are puny as though.

 

My main tips that i've found help are:

 

-Wear a long sleaved top to keep the arms warm when scratching

 

-I read that the latest sports physios tips is that they recommend to only stretch after activity and to warm up by gentley doing the activity you will be doing reather than stretching. And warm down doing the same activity then stretch. That really helps, i think.

 

I wear an elasticated sleeve thing on my arm all the time now when scratching. I also follow the 'don't stretch before' rule. After a good scratch when the muscle is warm the stretch is a good thing though. The doctors said the same thing to me as well though...give up. How can I give up when there's so much more to learn. GP's talk shit.

 

The foam roller really works for the forearm though, as I'm even back practising the snap tears and stuff that knackered the muscle in the first place.

[chile]

since ive been scratching a lot lately for the IDA entry, me hand pain has been flaring up a lot. i noticed something last night though when i was in bed trying to sleep and had burning pain. basically i sleep on my stomach majority of the time and my head was turned 90 degrees to the left while resting on the bed.. my hand pain was getting pretty intense but i also had neck pain, so i turned my head the other way and instantly the pain in my hand disappeared. since then ive been doing a few neck stretches when i get hand pain and it seems to be doing the trick. I still have finger weakness though but the burning pains reduced a lot today. Only time will tell really if theres a lasting effect though, but if it seems to work with me it may benefit you guys possibly. worth a try innit

[chile]

http://www.livestrong.com/article/231189-exercises-for-scar-tissue-on-the-finger/

 

[Vet]

Chile, have you ever looked at the direct cause of the RSI?

 

Ergonomics play a HUGE part...perhaps your decks are too high/low or you should consider angling your mixer/deck as most RSI or CTS can be mostly alleviated by a more forgiving 'workspace'...I had numbness in my shoulder blade (right side) when I used to work an office gig...after a year I finally managed to get the desk lowered by 2" and it went away.

 

Perhaps you've already gone down this road...but thought it was worth mentioning.

 

Best of luck with it...hope you get back to smashing the cuts again soon.

 

p.s. - Good on ya for getting on the exercises tho...stretching is key and probably a great idea before any of us jump on the decks for extended periods of time.

 

- V

[mfsop]

Good find!

I'll try to do it from now on as I sometimes have a funny feeling in my hands when scratching more than usual. Another good warm-up is to reach out with your arms with the palms facing to the ground. Then make a fist and bend your wrist down. Hold it for a while and reverse the excercise by grabbing your left hand and pull it up with your right hand. Then repeat with the other hand, of course.

 

Not too much hand-related but I find these excercise useful, too. They really relieve strains in your spine, shoulders and neck which can get a bit stiff when all that you do is standing at a somewhat weird angle for hours.

 

Probably not new for you but maybe it'll help others.