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Personally I don't really feel pride is an issue, I feel it's more about getting the most out of what you have. I know I can beat match 2 records together, I've done it for almost 20 years and I'll continue to do it. However, I think the Z2 offers more, factor in the 2 remix decks and you've got quite a lot of power. If I'm mixing and cutting 2 tracks together then sure, I'll definitely have sync off and play the way I used to because it's fun. But I reckon there's a lot of potential extras you can get out of it freeing up some space with sync. This is all theoretical because I've not had a chance to play yet but in my head I see more possibilities there. Will report back one day PS: Thanks for the TAP tip

I've just got my Z2 and kind of enjoying it but also stressed because the fucking Traktor serial didn't fucking work. Anyway, I'm playing with it in bursts of 30mins in demo mode, coming from Serato there's fucking settings and buttons everywhere. I'm slowly getting to grips with it but wandering if there's any vital settings I should apply (as a scratchy type person). Also, sync, snap & quantize: What's the general opinion? Useful? Turn them all off? They kind of seem fun but then just when I think I got it something fucking syncs to the wrong fucking thing. I just found myself playing hip hop at 187bpm with no fucking idea how to slow it down? Finally, beat grinding business: is it quite accurate or do you generally need to fiddle?

Thanks Steve, think I probably get the Z2, don't want to go too crazy with spending just yet though as just order a macbook *ducks, runs, hides, deletes DV account* That's what Mrs. dopp said obviously disappointed

Thanks for the replies guys. @dopp - I was here first! How stiff? (that's what dopp said)

Hello skratchy friends who I've been ignoring too much How are you all? I'm slowly getting back in to music (more specifically DJing) after almost a 2 year break. Currently running a Serato SL1 and I'm considering it's time to modern up! For some time I've been considering moving over to Traktor, the main reasons being that I'm a Maschine owner, an avid NI software user and I've wanted an S4 for some time. For those reasons it seems switching my DVS to it also, makes some sense. I'm considering a new bit of hardware, currently I'm thinking of either an S4 or Z2, I'm enjoying a bit of cutting and juggling so drawn towards the Z2 but also like the idea of the portability of the S4 and ultimately want on at some point. So... 1) Serato vs Traktor - will I be happy or will I regret it? 2) Z2 vs others - I can't afford a Sixty-Two, I assume the Z2 build would be a bit lower quality but is it a solid mixer? Any issues? Faders decent? 3) Z2 vs S4 - chalk and cheese I know, I'm sure I know what you guys will say Thanks fellas!

My phone came with Deezer installed, it keeps waking me up in the fucking morning telling me that David fucking Guetta has a new cunting song out. I really need to try and work out how to uninstall the app!

This track just came on on soundcloud after that 16 track mashup, make me laugh https://soundcloud.com/lazloandperkins/animals-exclusive-vip-remix

Lets make monies!

I always thought this tone control was pretty sick...last time I posted it everyone acted like it wasn't very clever but I've never been able to come close to pitching exact notes via hand control http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnpM37KRV14 i think it's impressive anyway

Have you seen my kitty needs a re-post. Sadly I lost it

Congrats to Jon for placing, that's a bit shit about the sellotape ... I'm sure you'll develop an OCD habit checking the setups before you start after this experience.

Well ableton will soon be releasing Push which is their new super ableton 9 controller....not cheap but looks awesome.

Site looks great but that background is 3.2mb so it loads fairly slowly on Welsh broadband. If you open it up on photoshop and save it for web and mess about with the optimisation settings you should be able to get it down loads. Alternatively make it into a tile.

I'm sure some of you guys who follow DJ tech closer than I do these days have already seen this but it just popped up as a related video (to something totally unrelated) on youtube and I clicked it out of interest and was transfixed for the length of the video. I can see people finding it annoy but I thought it was a great little show... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnbtxqRvqo

I believe that the standard upgrade path for a mac is to throw out the old one, buy a new one, then tell everyone how great you new one is.

Thanks for listening, the first is the original track that i did and was a bit experimental, the 2nd is a remix a friend did and I did the drum & bass remix.

clean thourily, sewing machine oil on the rails, cailube on the tracks, wd40 no where near it!

I can't be bothered to write about this, just have a listen and see if you like it http://soundcloud.com/dublemon/ningmeng-zhang-original-mix http://soundcloud.com/dublemon/ningmeng-zhang-kryptix-remix http://soundcloud.com/dublemon/ningmeng-zhang-drum-bass-remix

I remember watching this on the live stream and pretty much instantly sending him a message on myspace (do you guys remember myspace?). I thought they should've given him the title for his showcase that year haha.

Just a little bit more info, if you got one of the $649 machines now and plugged it into the the 50btc pool you would make a guarenteed £30 a day! I've requested a balance transfer from my 0% credit card to buy one, I've spoken to the company and they say if I order now I should expect one by Feburary, just hope the rate is fairly similar when I get my miner!

yeah except the lollypop is either worth £400 or you can join a pool and get paid even if you don't find anything. I did read that apparently the average return on investment for people is around 26% which isn't as exciting as it first sound but I think also depends how deep you get into it.

In many ways yes it is the same, a credit card number has a hash which you can use to validate it (I think it's possibly called the mod10 hash or checksum), it's very very easy to generate credit card numbers that match that hash but that doesn't mean an account is attached. Because these are so much harder to find they need the immense computing power of the public to search for them. And like I said in the previous post the money comes from the people who buy the bitcoin with real currency. Think of it as having a country with it's own currency of gold coins, you know that there are 1million coins in this country so an exchange rate is set up with other countries so people wishing to tray in gold coins can buy them for the going exchange rate with dollars/pounds/whatever. The thing is not all the coins have been found, so you can go hunting for them and they might be hard to find but when you find one you can exchange it with someone for pounds at the going rate. But the question is when these new powered miners come out and more get found more quickly will you find enough to cover the cost of you machine, I think if you had one of these machines now you'd be coining it in however when everyone else has one too then you're competing against more power. If I could have one on my doorstep first thing in the morning I'd buy now without a second thought but my worry is if I buy now will it arrive in the next 6months, year, how long? And buy they the first generation of pre-orders might be head and shoulders ahead.

Right well since you're all being thick as fuck I'll try to explain it more clearly. I may be wrong with some of it but I think this is the jist. Obviously since bitcoins represent real value the have to be incredably hard to crack/forget, the way this is done is by finding hashes which match up to rare numbers (of which there are a limited number of) and there is a list. For those who don't know how a hash algorithm works, they basically takes some input data, applies the hashing algoritm on it and returns a new bit of data (the hash). Given the same input data you will always get the same hash but you there is no way to find the input data which will create a given hash. In the case of the bitcoins they know the hashes but not the data that is used to generate that hash and that is what they need to run their bitcoin network, the only way to find the input data to create a hash is brute force (i.e. trying random/sequential combinations until the result is what your are looking for). With a hard to crack has such as the one bitcoin use (sha256) this can take ages and ages and would cost an insane amount of money to build a system capable of trying enough hashes to find them in any reasonable length of time. Since the bitcoin network needs coins because people want to buy them to use the bitcoin system to get their kiddy porn, heavy artillary, drug or more legitimate services & wares they need to have the coins to sell. So basically they invited the computer power of people around the world to hunt for bitcoins and when you find them you can cash them in for real cash which will come from whoever buys them to use. Does that make sense? Just to add a bit more technical info I've just found that the way it works is the bitcoin network says right here's the next one we want to find then everyones mining rigs (aka computer) starts trying like crazy to find the input to get then requested hash, when it's found the next one is announced. I'm not sure what the current rate is but I think bitcoin want to get it down to one found every 10mins. Also just a note about the rate decreasing this is true, when they his a certain value of found blocks the next collection of blocks will be worth less so the reward will go down, I'm still not quite sure why the next collection is worth less but I'm guess it's some techical reason of some sort like blocks with these numbers can contain less bitcoins or something.

Basically as I understand it bitcoins are a number that matches an algorithm and searching for these numbers that match the algorithm can take a lot of searching but when you find one you essentially get the bitcoins for it (50 per block you find) and you can cash them in at the going rate (around £7 pounds each). The speed you can generate them is calculated in hashes per second and is normally done on graphics cards, you can build a computer with 3 graphics cards for about £1000 and it can do about 2000 megahashes per second, which will give you a turned over which is fairly small. This device for $649 claims to do 30gigahashes per second. Basically you buy this box, plug it in and connect to the net and wait for the cash to roll in.

Anyone got any experience with this? I've just found out that this range of products are coming out very soon. http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/ I've been looking at a bitcoin mining calculator and it looks like buying the $649 version could turn over $20,000 in the year. However after these are available I'm assuming they'll be snapped up and the blocks will be mined much quicker which means the whole thing won't last much longer (no idea how long). From what I can tell these devices mine much quicker than anything out there so far and run extremely low power (apparently around 1watt per gigahash). I've seriously considering spending $649 on one but not sure if it's too good to be true?