Chris

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I think the incentive to get a gaming pc is massively reduced with the new consoles. I have a 12 core Xeon with 64gb ram, ssd and a titan x (last generation), a 5k monitor and also steam link for my living room 1080p tv. It plays pretty much everything I've tried at 1440p 60fps on ultra, and some stuff, like doom in Vulcan mode, on ultra 4K 60fps. The thing is, I still use the PS4 most of the time after the initial excitement because it's just easier, and with the new one capable of 1080p 60fps at somewhere between high and ultra pc settings I wouldn't even have that nagging in the back of my head i could be getting it smoother/prettier if I did it on pc. I didn't buy the computer for gaming, but even if I put one together for the cheapest I could to comfortsbly trounce the new consoles it'd be quite a lot more expensive for what is realistically a pretty small enhancement...

And then the dog ate it. And then I left it on the bus. And then I let a mate copy it and he spilt his drink on it. And then I used it to fan someone in the common room who was having a diabetic attack but the wind took it and it got stuck in a tree and a bird shat on it and a bear ate it. And then

Congrats! Great routine, great techniques

I was kinda hoping that the new one would give that 'oh shit, THIS is what next gen graphics look like' feeling the first one did, but it didn't. I reckon we're a couple of years off a true generational leap now, most stuff is kinda a higher res 360/PS3 title still as far as I see it?

Well for ultra pitch I guess you just double the pitch of everything so it ends up normal when you pitch down the turntable, and to make a record skipless you give it 133.3 bpm so that in 4/4 you end up with a new bar at 12 o'clock every rotation and beats on the other quarters. Combine the two for a skiplless ultra pitch record. There's people here that actually do this though so perhaps wait for them to chime in before taking what I say for granted..!

HAK 360 is amazing - I just sold one for 250 and the UPS guy lost/nicked it. There might be one going for a steal out the back of a van/crackconverters in Manchester around now. Lovely lovely lovely sound with fantastic eq and gain and it's built great - hollower than a 56 but it's solid. The z2 is unbeatable for the price and feature set if you're using Traktor. If you want to go off the beaten path and are looking at the korg zeros, take a look at the ecler evo 5 - it's a behemoth. Traktor certified, sounds great, dsp effects, plenty of inputs, eternal compatible, amazing routing both physical and internal, full midi, editable eq curves... just a complete failure for its intended install market (you can store your settings and transfer them mixer to mixer). Bit tough to find and FireWire based but it's a real curio. Allen and Heath xone 02 seems to be getting forgotten about nowadays too but I've seen them go for less than 200 which is ridiculous. I've also seen a new Numark v5 somewhere, forget where, in the past 18 months for under 200 and that's a really great deal too. That said if you can find a ppd they tend to go for about 50 so that's a contender for best bargain ever too. If you want something new though, either go cheap and get dif1 or choose serato/Traktor and get z2 or probably s9. Or get a 900 nexus if you want a 4 channel, because why get anything else? V1 is probably fine for 99% of people too and price has come way down so for people that need them it's basically a steal, especially since the dual Traktor/serato fe update.

I dunno, we'll have to agree to disagree on the similarity thing - it's laid out exactly the same, but the buttons are led backlit? What were you developing if you don't mind me asking?

Oh well colour me stupid then. I always though Ion was an original brand created by Jack Odonnell, and icon was an oem knockoff brand from Hong Kong. You'd always see icon by the toilets at trade shows with a table with knockoff oem gear laid out. I'm not referring to the protocol as a whole so much as the original products - the logic control and later the Mackie control. These used a different protocol to hui, which was a pro tools thing, and the logic control one was logic only, the Mackie control was for everything else. As far as I know, which might not be much, the Mackie control protocol being put in a bunch of daws opened it up to bring 'hijacked' by other controllers pretending to be a Mackie control because it's powerful and can make things plug and play, and daws allow 'emulated' Mackie controls that creates a sort of through-ware solution. It's not an open standard as such, it's more a widely used proprietary solution. Anyway, the qcon pro looks more or less exactly like the Mackie control. Not a bad thing, just an observation. All the icon stuff looks like knockoffs (and they're often named with knockoff sounding titles too) - I'm surprised that its the other way round in the case of the korg nanos.

Are you referring to Icon? A range of shitty oem keyboards and pad controls that look suspiciously like Korg nanos and a nice Mackie Control knockoff? They're not the same as Ion. The Mackie Control knockoff does look interesting...

Tempted, just for the affiliation!

It comes with. Are you interested in a second hand one? I'm about to put mine on eBay...

Running inside a vm would be a headache - you could torrent an older os and burn it to dvd or bootable usb, boot into recovery mode, wipe your disk, and install the older os. Logic X is really good, but if all you want is to get your old projects going and want to switch to another daw then it's probably not worth it. Which daw are you switching to?

Sounds gooooood

You might now have your phone enabled for file sharing or whatever android calls it...?

I think you need this https://www.android.com/filetransfer/

Or maybe replays it... What have I said...

Planet rock samples kraftwerk!

You have the wrong device for what you want - you need line level inputs for all your stuff. Mic and instrument inputs are set up for mics and instruments. Strangely though, those inputs amplify the signal as they're expecting the much weaker mic/guitar level signal so putting your line level gear into them should make things nasty and distorted. What might be happening is the sound you're hearing is crosstalk between channels (especially if the signal is as hot as it will be by putting line inputs into a mic in), because the firebox is only passing through through the line inputs. You could use audio/midi devices in OS X to ensure the routing is right or just set up your inputs in a daw to confirm. Bottom line, though, is that if you want to record three line level sources separately you need three (pairs of?) line level inputs...

Yes and I was incredibly surprised that the thread didn't immediately derail on the basis of the double entrendre anyway! Come on dv. I've just trumped and I thought it would come out quiet and it didn't. At least it doesn't smell. Edit: I was mistaken.

Well... No just kidding

It's a 360, it's about 7 years old I think, but it's been in storage for the best part of three!

are you interested in mine for £280 and post?

Steve that was the original version of the original street fighter, and the fact it ended up breaking after a week because of abuse gave birth to the 6 button layout. I have always wanted a Japanese candy cabinet, a nice big sit down. My ideal situation is a vs city cab with 3rd strike but it requires friends unfortunately.

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