cutdisco Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Something new? https://www.digitaldjtips.com/reviews/pioneer-dj-plx-crss12-controller-turntable/ https://djtechtools.com/2023/08/01/meet-the-plx-crss12-a-hybrid-digital-analog-turntable-from-pioneer-dj/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Feature-wise it looks great, but £1,200 each is too much IMO! Video review: - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 IDK why they wouldn't do an internal ground. Pretty interesting but that spindle lock is weird. Seems like a real pain in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, djdiggla said: IDK why they wouldn't do an internal ground. Pretty interesting but that spindle lock is weird. Seems like a real pain in the ass. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBearOne8III Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 my mind is blown with this table. i hate the price. but i love the features. i can see how the price is justified though. would be nice if they made a stripped down version. I only need high torque and the time code. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBearOne8III Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 the spindle clamp doubles as a weight for those old warped records. mojaxx did a review and put a concaved record on there and made it playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, djdiggla said: Pretty interesting but that spindle lock is weird. Seems like a real pain in the ass. I wonder if you have to use it. That would definitely be a pain when doing a real vinyl set. If you set it at a certain position, I wonder how well it holds it. Also, some people use the spindle when mixing, so they'll twist or spin it, which obviously you can't do with this thing attached. I would rather the adjustment for that mechanism be underneath, so you set it and then leave it. Then they could have had a magnetic 45 adapter that also works as a clamp. That said, I'm a bit confused as to its purpose. In 2 of the reviews I watched, the reviewers made out that it was for adjusting the tension of the platter, but in Mojaxx's video, he doesn't mention that at all and implies that the control on it is for adjusting the clamping force for warped records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBearOne8III Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 hmmm.. i didnt consider how that would affect using the spindle when mixing. i pinch the spindle to slow it down slightly. never liked the feel of rubbing my finger on the platter. this could pose a slight issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Good point. I twist the spindle to speed up slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista_Ed Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 ah jesus.....just when i think im set on buying a modern turntable and mixer.....something new comes out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neks Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 maybe we'll get a Stanton version of this for 1/2 the price in the near-ish future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBearOne8III Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, neks said: maybe we'll get a Stanton version of this for 1/2 the price in the near-ish future is stanton even making new products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkei Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 They should have put 8 midi-buttons instead of 4 with a shift-button. If ever I will buy a new turntable in the future it'll be the Reloop RP-8000mkII 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutdisco Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 i would've loved to see that thing working as a standalone, i guess it would require a screen than and so on..and probably more buttons which wouldnt have fit the housing considering the size. Not even mentioning the price:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 It seems you don't need to use that clamp when playing real vinyl, but you do when using DVS. Also, the friction adjustment knob that's part of that clamp sits inside an outer ring section, so you can grab the outer part of the clamp and twist/squeeze it like you might with the spindle when mixing. I reckon you'd adjust to that pretty quickly. The step pitch feature is cool too IMO. In the video I posted, he's using a real song, so it leaves you thinking "what's the point?", but if you're using a locked tone or a musical sample, you'd be able to get pitch perfect notes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutdisco Posted August 9, 2023 Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 Had a spin tonight on it, hooked up to a S9, my impression is that this turntable is rock solid, the spindle thing is easy to take off and put it back, although it feels a little awkward at first But to use the spindle to speed up a little as written above while mixing, isn't the same feel as a 1200,the spindle's top isn't round. I was just cutting on it tonight but you can leave it off if you want. Design is nice although i'm not a pioneer fan but it makes a nice couple with a S9, pitch control has a wide range, filling the gap that 1200's miss Buttons feel okay and are responsive but a bit small for me, should've been 8 buttons maybe.... depending on what you want Maybe a midi connection would've been great just as the vestax players but possibly there is a workaround, i'm not familiar with that Nice piece of gear which i probably never buy, pricewise I'd rather stick to traktor when it comes to DVS but i'm an old fart anyway, at the other hand i dont see NI coming up with something new when it comes to mixers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 NI is more into chairs lately… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/25399#Comment_25399 For me the new logo is hinting this new hardware direction too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 lol. NI orthopedic chairs FTW! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Hey guys, long time! I did the product launch video demo for these and a few other bits on my socials, and this mix recently: I think Mojax did a great review of them: In terms of features, the clamp provides excellent tracking in serato and having the midi pads set to a feature like stems is really handy, especially when combined with a dvs mixer like a S9/11 with its pads set to cues, for example 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 7:07 PM, Steve said: I wonder if you have to use it. That would definitely be a pain when doing a real vinyl set. If you set it at a certain position, I wonder how well it holds it. Also, some people use the spindle when mixing, so they'll twist or spin it, which obviously you can't do with this thing attached. I would rather the adjustment for that mechanism be underneath, so you set it and then leave it. Then they could have had a magnetic 45 adapter that also works as a clamp. That said, I'm a bit confused as to its purpose. In 2 of the reviews I watched, the reviewers made out that it was for adjusting the tension of the platter, but in Mojaxx's video, he doesn't mention that at all and implies that the control on it is for adjusting the clamping force for warped records. The full DVS signal is created from the clamp and spindle being connected, but you could use needles with control records if you didn't want to use the clamp and you don't need to use it at all for regular vinyl The tension control on the clamp is for more controlling feel/resistance, and it can really help with playing with dished records or for extra resistance when scratching or doing spinbacks, I like having it on a more resistant setting as I'm quite heavy handed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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