Guest rasteri Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Looks like it wasn't a shop after all : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Well I'll be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hopefully it will be successful enough. I'll get at least one. But then I'll need a 72. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This has the potential to be a complete gamechanger for turntablism. Something like this was inevitable after Final Scratch came out. Can't believe it took the industry 16 years. It would be a shame if it ends up being really shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcFive Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Look ma, a rehoused V7 from Ranark... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeljms Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Where's the image from? Couldn't find it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Where's the image from? Couldn't find it! It's doing the rounds on FB and instagram. I'm guessing it's gonna be demo'd at Expo next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Very interesting! We've been talking about this since forever it feels like, but it always seemed either a long way off or just like a product they'd never bother to make. Now just don't fuck it up InMusic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 A tiny niggle and obviously not the main story here, but everyone gets the ultra pitch wrong IMO. I much prefer the Vestax way did it with two pitch sliders for rough and fine pitch control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think for this to take off it needs to work WELL. No sticker drift, nice feeling platter with adjustability and hopefully feel tighter than DVS, certainly no worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Shit, I just had a thought - my shop is pretty tight with inmusic, now rane are on board maybe we can get demo versions of their stuff... Certainly we can get spare parts etc. I'll lean on them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 And of course people are proclaiming this the end of DJing. Nobody tell them DVS came out 15 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm in shock. Pretty cool. Problem for me will likely be price... needs to be less than a super oem and we all know that's not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I like the strip search feature. But yeah, doesn't this need to work super on point to really change anything? There should be basically no lag, otherwise, I'm not sure I would be worth it, at least for me. In all honestly I'm such a vinyl addict that I'd probably never be willing to go with something that only does DVS. It is really cool though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeljms Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It looks fundamentally like a full size v7, which is no bad thing at all. The only real difference is reputation - Rane may have the credibility to get some traction in the market that Numark didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It was perfectly possible since years ago thanks to @rasteri "scratchbox" midibox project and some tinkering...  Also possible to add it to any turntable thanks to djSniff and some tinkering (again) https://youtu.be/G17o_HuQvo4 at this point and for scratching I will go the usb media player route like Denons (or modified cdx :wink: ) or Abletonesque-like/Mpc-like approach for producing and reproducing beats live. It leaves a "product" in the middle that could be NI D2 in standalone version (well someone could fit an intel nuc with traktor inside it ala thud rumble... it seems is going to be made with Pioneer from Focus fb group chat) Or Give dvs support to Pioneer ToRaiz/mpc Live to get the "scratchable MPC".  It should be at market over 2025 due to dj zeigeist, 2021 finantial crisis and inMusic bought from Pioneer corps at 2023. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'd def get one for clubs/festivals if there's no noticeable difference in lag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'd def get one for clubs/festivals if there's no noticeable difference in lag It should be possible to get lower lag with a the Twelve, since instead of going audio->software->audio it just goes software->audio. Theoretically USB latency could be as low as the USB 2.0 polling frequency (1/8th of a millisecond). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 But hardly fast than analog vinyl for scratching... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 https://djworx.com/dj-expo-2017-rane-twelve-12-inches-of-digital-pleasure/Â more details ^Â I'm def interested in one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savwar Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I like the idea but i'm a little skeptical This is just a record player that doesn't have a needle and doesn't play actual records. a CDX for seratoMaybe they should have gone all out made a controller turntable to help reduce the need for a laptop. Which is actually something that pioneer should do next seen as they have their own recordbox software, Basically a cdj1000 or 2000 with a motorised platter. As that would attract the cdj dance heads, and the battle crowd. One reason that this might work would be for reasons of space, if they made a 10in version of this (or 7), it'd make more sense to me. It's not small enough to be useful for a touring dj, like an actual controller, and not likely that they will be available at clubs (for a long time...) 800quid each and you have to have the 72 to use it...?? (or do you) either way..... hrmmmmmm Is there still enough money in battling to be throwing this kind product out? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I think you can use it directly with your laptop provided you have a Serato box or Serato DVS mixer. I think the 72 just gives you the option of having two extra USB inputs in the mixer so you can use two and not use up your laptop USB slots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeClockwork Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'd like to have a go on one of these but if I can't play wax on it, I'd rather save my £800. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I've always thought it would be a good idea to put the needle search and cue point bit across the record in roughly the same travel as the needle reaches across toward the centre. With higher res led feedback so you can see better where in the track you are - seems like this only has 8 indicators? I've also thought it would be cool to have only half the record actually touchable with the other side having a section over it with pads etc on it. Also I reckon a high res rotary encoder would be better for pitch, it'd take a bit of relearning but you could switch decks easier and be more precise. A shift button could do coarse changes, and scale buttons ala controller 1 could take care of pitch play duties.  Pm me my development fees, thanks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Yeah it is a lil pricey compared to other turntables - but it's apparently all-metal construction so will be (hopefully) pretty much indestructable. Also setting up will take 2 seconds since there'll be no calibration etc to perform. Also remember it's less than half the price of a single CDJ. I see it being useful in situations where the DJ can take all their own equipment and might be subject to a slightly iffy noise/vibration/electrical environment - festivals, outdoor events, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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