d00ban Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Word, I'm getting better at chopping samples but am still a bit unclear on some stuff. Can any one tell me, on this track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGGZ1P7LKoE Are they filtering out the sample to get the main beat and then opening the filters at opportune moments to let through the sample, or have they laid down the main beat, and then chopped samples separately and layered them on top? Not sure if that makes sense but hopefully you get what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I do know what you mean and if you don't have an answer by the time I've finished work I will have a listen and see if I can be of any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 are you on about the way her voice comes through as being chopped up while the piano's and guitars in the background remain constant? it sounds like they found a loop out of the existing tune, with no vocals, then found a loop that had the same music plus vocals, and then just chopped between the two to allow her voice to come through every now and then. giving the impression that the vocal is on a seperate track i guess. then the drums have been layered over. at least that what it sounds like to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Cool man, was just seeing what everyone else thought as I wasn't so sure myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacken Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think the best way is to find original sample but I guess Symatic is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 The original sample is Dione Warwick - Walk on By... I can deffo hear the bits they chopped, except for the main beat actually, not sure what they've chopped to get that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doppelkorn Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 From a casual listen to me it sounds like they've got tonnes of samples from the original and rebuilt a similar sounding tune from scratch using the sampled notes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doppelkorn Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 So basically what Sy said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Bit late to the party I know, but I agree with Symatic. Just chop different parts of the same song and process them differently. Sampling different parts from different versions of the same song can be handy too - it makes finding samples that are using the same key and scale much easier and a lot of old songs were covered by a few bands/singers. What i would say from my own experience, is that even if you're just doing quite simple things with them, there's definitely a bit of an art to getting the best bits from tracks you want to sample and there seems to be quite a lack of tutorials going into depth on what techniques you can use. I've learnt a lot of what I know just from slowly grinding away on my own, mostly trial and error and at times it's been annoying - like if you had to learn scratching on your own with only finished audio tracks to go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericuk Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 https://soundcloud.com/ericuk/you-dont-see-the-tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Cheers Eric. Not sure what point you're trying to make there though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericuk Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 no point - I just have no life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kut_class Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Another trick with chopping sample is to sample from each of the stereo channels. In old stereo recordings U'll find they used pan a lot (its to do with how they mic'd live bands /limited recording channels) so left may have more pronounced drums n bass, while right more lead and vocal. U can further eq those to bring the instrument u want to hear forward. They u can stack em all back u , hopefully no phasing going on, and then cut in n out the sounds u want. Fyi - at work haven't listened to eris file. Si we need to go out to a carboot n then ill take u through it with what we find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 I'm going record shopping tomorrow if you're up for it? Gonna bust out the old handy trax innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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