scottie(the)goonie Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 technique vs style ... I've heard this tune before. You can be the best at either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Figuratively speaking, you have to learn to walk before you can run. It seems like a lot of people want to skip mastering the basics and go straight for the tech stuff. Personally I'd rather hear someone who does simple stuff really well than someone who does something complicated badly, but that's pretty obvious I would have thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie(the)goonie Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 ^Doing simple and doing it well, is hard. But regardless of what school of thought you come from I think you can be dynamic in either category. I'll admit it. I lack some serious fundamentals because I grew up spoiled with nice slipmats and nice cf's - but I don't think one style beats the other. Steve talked about Chilie and IQ in his first post. Both of these guys have completely different styles. I hope I'm not offending Chilie, but I think his style uses a lot of technique and and speed, yet he is able to vary it dynamically. That is what makes him one of the best at it. IQ is the other side of the coin. He hardly needs to do strings of 2 or 3 clicks because he has mastered the ability to pitch basic scratches. The point is, they both are dynamic. I'm just being the devil's advocate by saying that I don't agree that old school scratchers are, by nature, better than the new school style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wax On Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I've watched about 10 of the battle vids, in no particular order, and in some of them people repeat patterns for far too long IMO - like if you watch IQ's vid, every next combo/phrase is different to what went before. In b boy battles there's a big issue about repeating moves - if this sort of mentality/stipulation was introduced in scratching/battles, would it help make it all more interesting? Apples and oranges I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Repetition and variation provide structure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amatic Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 my favorite scrather of all time is kurteek..what do you guys reckon of him..new school? basically fast as hell with lots of chirp flarey and modern tech..is he new school?i could listen to nothng but his cuts all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 I would definitely say that Kurteek is new school, but there's a lot of variety in his cuts that makes him stand out in a good way. I would say that someone like waxdestroyer is old school, not that he doesn't do any new school cuts at all. Personally, I prefer listening to him cut than Kurteek, although I understand that that's just a matter of taste. D-Styles is a mix of the two and that's why he's one of my overall favourites, cos he'll do transform patterns that Aladdin used to do, or baby/reverse baby patterns that Mixmaster Ice used to do way back in the day, fast stabs and chirps etc., but all done super tightly and mixed in with all the new school stuff as well and with a lot of flavour/variety. Advanced scratchers of either style sound great. I guess it's the "average-good" folks that are the ones I'm talking about, cos I can listen to average-good old school style scratching and think it sounds really good, but average-good new school scratching sounds very samey and soulless to me and it just makes me think that the DJ skipped a lot of the basics because they wanted to sound like whoever their favourite new school scratcher is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORATOR3 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Deleted my drunk post.. Edited September 24, 2013 by ORATOR3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kian Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I agree about the trend thing. As mentioned. D style has flow and being pitchy. The past 5 years, it's been all speed. People clap when you can chirp triplets like mad crazy when smooth flow style ain't good for shit. The trend change when faster beats came along and then everyone can go free time scratching over a tempo and still sound okay. But when they scratch a slow beat, they stick to what they only can do; fast soratching tand always doubling timing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelio Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Scratching is only impressive to nerds anyway. Doesn't matter whether it's "funky" chirps or "soulless" whatever the autobahn. Who gives a shit? Barely anyone on the planet. Nerd on or jog on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Scratching is only impressive to nerds anyway. Doesn't matter whether it's "funky" chirps or "soulless" whatever the autobahn. Who gives a shit? Barely anyone on the planet. Nerd on or jog on. The people in this thread care enough to discuss...if you didn't give a shit why comment? SMH. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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