Steve Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I don't understand why broadband is capped in some cases. It seems like it's becoming more common too. Surely if the infrastructure is in place, it doesn't matter if you're receiving data or not - it won't cost the ISP any more money. I read on another forum that every GB you download costs the ISP £1, but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxman Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 probly something to do with BT being robbin cunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2k Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Bandwidth costs money man, same reason asisphonics gets shut down when nicks don't pay his bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 25, 2005 Author Share Posted February 25, 2005 Why though? What is happening that incurs a cost? Nothing really. It's just ISPs being greedy cunts. It's the same with phone lines. In the USA, you pay one price and all your local calls are included, no matter how much you use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhand Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 yep it's greed alrightthe ISP offering capped services, probably have one that is uncapped (or has much higher amount) but for more dosh. once the connection is established there should be no further cost to the ISP. the only effect it should have is that the connection may get slower, if everyone is downloading like the clappers. maybe they enforce a download cap just so that people cant constantly d/l day and night and make it slower for others. i'm not really sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 25, 2005 Author Share Posted February 25, 2005 That's the only thing I could think of too. Contention ratios are usually either 20-1 or sometimes 50-1. My broadband is never slow though. Even if the service was uncapped, it wouldn't mean that people suddenly downloaded at full speed 24 hours a day. With faster broadband the downloads are done sooner anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2k Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 (edited) Thing each ISP's buys their bandwidth off other ISP's higher up the chain, everyone one pays bandwidth costs but it gets cheaper the more you use and higher up the chain you are. Fuck knows what happens at the top of the chain, I could be wrong but I guess the big boys buy bandwidth between each others networks or something, either way these people run/own/maintain the main infrestructure of the internet or what not so I guess some money goes into maintaining that, the rest probably goes in the pockets. Edited February 25, 2005 by x2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 I looked into this a little more. One example is this: - An ISP may use a 155Mbps CBC BT Central which is £316,200 per year. If this was utilised fully 24 hours a day that equates to 52 pence per GB transferred. The point is, if 0 GB are downloaded using it in a year, it STILL costs them £316,200. BTW - that's capable of handling 7,000 1MB broadband users. At a conservative figure of £25 per month, that's £2,100,000 earned per year, regardless of the amount of total GB transferred. I guess the true answer is ISPs are greedy cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerpot Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 well here in pre historic africa,the default max for adsl customers is 3 gig in/out per month....i payed extra for 6 gig but its disgusting,the reason they say is because they have to pay alot for international bandwidth so we only get a little bit for prime portal hehe sux to be africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Damn yes that does suck. 3 GB per month? They're having a laugh, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerpot Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 theres a monopoly here,company named telkom runs the enitre country...seriously....what they say goes,they the only telephone company with the only lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chee Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Back when I lived in NZ, they were charging NZ$0.20 per MB you downloaded. Sure, you had a fast 2MB line, but your monthly free MB usage was....500MB. Not GB, MB. After that you would be paying NZ$1 for every 5MB you d/led (1GBP = 3NZD) And the connection fee was about £35 a month. There were stories in the papers every now and then about kids running up thousands of dollars worth of internet bills unknowingly, when using P2P like Kazaa and shit. That would piss you off. At least now, it's slightly more civilised, and there are packagaes where they don't charge you for excess use, rather they just throttle your speed to dial-up levels. Still sucks ass though. Right now, I'm just waiting for the free increase in speed BT has promised us all. I could be waiting a while though, as they say it could be anytime from today (Feb 28th, the first day of upgrades) till the end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Reezy Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 well here in pre historic africa,the default max for adsl customers is 3 gig in/out per month....i payed extra for 6 gig but its disgusting,the reason they say is because they have to pay alot for international bandwidth so we only get a little bit for prime portal hehe sux to be africa<{POST_SNAPBACK}> you better be archiving those porn files buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Mine's upgraded in april. Possibly up to an 8 MB line, fucking w00t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Reezy Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Mine's upgraded in april. Possibly up to an 8 MB line, fucking w00t!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Icouldnt imagaine that, I have dsl @ 1.5mb and the shit is fast, I dont really need anything faster, and there is no delays on anything. Damn! 8 mb that 5x faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deeswift Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Best thing is there's no extra cost. Yay. All customers of my ISP will basically be upgraded to the fastest line that the exchange supports, so it could be anywhere from 512 k to 8 MB. I'll be happy with anything faster than what I have now (ADSL 512), hopefully it'll be at least 2 MB. I think it could be more like 4 for this area, but up to 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phontic Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Sweden actually got great broadband services, a company named Telia owned all the lines before but now a lot of different companies are on the rise. I got 10mbit downstream and 1mbit upstream for around 40 dollars a month (converted from swedish currency). If you live in a apartment with fiber optics you can get up to 100mbit both ways, but then youll have a limit of 300gb's per month. All other services, all other speeds except 100mbit allows unlimited traffic. I think sweden is the world leader when it comes to fast, cheap and accessible broadband. Around 80% of us can get it. So im satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mixologist Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 naw, i think china is using some optical shiznit that's like 20 bucks a month and it's crazy fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chee Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I think sweden is the world leader when it comes to fast, cheap and accessible broadband. Around 80% of us can get it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's either you guys, or it's South Korea. You can get a 100mbit connection in S Korea for about US$20. Unlimited. Check out this article... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._pcworld/119741 Also, my friends used to live in South Korea, doing the whole teaching English thing. They told me they occasionally were able to download movies from Kazaa at the 2MB a second. If they were bored, they would sometimes go to an internet cafe, pay US$1 per hour, and download a movie and watch it. It was cheaper than going to the movies, and not to mention you can't get English movies in Korea anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phontic Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Whoa! Thats cheaper then here for 100mbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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