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still the best to ever touch a mic...

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Biggie Smalls is the wickedest

Niggas say I'm pussy, I dare you to stick your dick in this

If I was pussy I'd be filled with syphilis

Herpes, gonorrhea, climittia, getting rid'a ya

Got it locked like the penatentury

Niggas mention me for MC execution

Who you choosin, the wack MC

Or the fat black MC

Jack Dempsey will start shaking

All it's taking, is some marijuana and I'm making

MCs break fast, like flap-jacks and bacon

Back spins, the windmills, who's still the gin-drinker

Ill-thinker, exploding when the paper hits the ink-ugh

Take the Gangster Chronicles, turn to page 6-6-6

Holocost, B.I.G. the merciless

Niggas press they luck-and

They get a butt-fuckin

Straight up the ass

Raw dog with the rash

And I don't fuck with the condoms

The condoms is a problem from the AIDS getting sprayed

Diseases, B.I.G. pleases

MCs across the seas is just the way, I crush my pray, hey

I'm crazy and deranged

Blowing niggas out the frame, simple and plain

But getting back, to the black, rhinocerisous rap

B.I.G. took a loss, hypopotheris is back, nigga

Recognize

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biggie could seriously SLAY MCs. I can't wait for the first backpacker to say something like "biggie wasn't that great." Biggie would rip 75 assholes in any backpack mc.

 

I wish biggie & Big L were still alive. I think Jay-Z would be hotter too if they were still around. Nas would never make "hip hop is dead"

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The flow he has on this one is wicked. Not the wittiest lyrics, but still my favourite Biggie song...

 

 

 

Verse one:

 

Live from bedford-stuyverson, the livest one

Representin bk to the fullest

Gats I pull it, bastards duckin when big be buckin

Chickenheads be cluckin in my bathroom fuckin

It aint nuttin, they know big be handlin

With the mac in the ac door paneling

Bandaging mcs, oxygen they cant breathe

Mad tricks up the sleeve, red boxers so my dick can breathe

Breeze through in the q-45 by my side, lyrical high

And those that rushes my cluthes get put on crutches

Get smoked like dutches from the master

Hate to blast ya, but I have ta, you see I smoke a lot

Your life is played out like kwame, and them fuckin polka dots

Who rock the spot? biggie!

You know how the weed yo, unbelievable

 

Verse two:

 

B-i-g, g-i-e, aka, b.i.g.

Get it? biggie

Also known as the bon appetit

Rappers cant sleep need sleepin big keep creepin

Bulelts heat-seekin, casualties need treatin

Dumb rappers need teachin

Lesson a - dont fuck with b-i, thats that, oh i, thought he was wack

Oh come come now, why yall so dumb now

Hunt me or be hunted, three hundred and fifty-seven ways

To summer sautee, Im the winner all day

Lights get dimmer down biggies hallway

My forte causes caucausians to say

He sounds demented, car-weed scented

If I said it, I meant it

Bite my tongue for no-one

Call me evil, or unbelievable

 

Verse three:

 

Buck shots out the sun roof of lexus coupes

Leave no witnesses, what you think this is

Aint no amateurs here, I damage and tear

Mcs fear me, they too near not to hear me

Clearly, Im the triple beam dream

One thousand grams of uncut to the gut

It seems fucked up, the way I touched up the grill

Tryin to play gorilla, when you aint no killer

The gats by your liver, your upper lip quiver

Get ready to die, tell God I said hi

And throw down some ice, for the nicest mc

Niggaz know the steelo, unbelievable

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Lyrically, I'm worshipped, don't front the word sick

You cursed it, but rehearsed it

I drop unexpectedly like bird shit

 

RIP

 

And yeah it's been dun posted a million and one times but damn if this doesn't make me smile and remember why I ever got into hip hop every time I see it.

 

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I can't wait for the first backpacker to say something like "biggie wasn't that great."
I think he's generally overrated, same as 2Pac. This post from Soul Sides sums it up for me: -

 

Can Biggie really be considered the G.O.A.T. if he only had two albums and a sprinkling of cameos to build that consensus from? (I know I'm not the first to raise the question but whatever). Or do we lionize Biggie because his untimely death meant that we never had to wait to watch him fall off (assuming he would have). After all, if Big Daddy Kane had died after his second album, imagine how different his legacy would look. Or what if Run DMC had disbanded and stopped recording after Raising Hell.

 

I've never denied Biggie his props (he's not #1 to me but Top 5? Sure.), but I also thought Life After Death didn't deserve the intense praise it got (like most double albums, it was just too long with a lot of tracks I'll never ever care to listen to again) but obviously, coming out post-death, it was treated like the best-thing-ever. Had he lived, I have the feeling that Life After Death would have been seen as a smart commercial effort but I imagine Biggie could/would have surpassed it later. It also imagine, easily, he would have dropped some mediocre material later too: it's impossible to think he would have escaped a fate that even his most talented peers: Jay-Z, Nas, Snoop, etc. have fallen victim to at some point.

 

So yeah, my question is: do we give Biggie too much credit because his catalog was unnaturally frozen in time? Is he like the Robert Johnson of hip-hop?

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in response to that......i dont think it has much to do with lyrical content as much as

 

 

1.....he's a new york cat that if you put him on stage with any other rapper.....alive or dead....biggie would outshine him/her.....and of course his death makes it all that more important.....would joan of arch be as important....abe lincoln?????......he died, his murder was never solved and that certainly adds to it.....

 

 

so i guess i would say i think him and or tupac would be the best so far........

i still bump his music....i think it still sounds great.......

 

i mean i understand the arguement.....but its not one that needs to be made...

his flow to me has been unmatched.......and his style unlike so many others has not been duplicated...because well.....its really fuckin hard to do what he did....and made it look so easy....

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I can't wait for the first backpacker to say something like "biggie wasn't that great."
I think he's generally overrated, same as 2Pac. This post from Soul Sides sums it up for me: -

 

Can Biggie really be considered the G.O.A.T. if he only had two albums and a sprinkling of cameos to build that consensus from? (I know I'm not the first to raise the question but whatever). Or do we lionize Biggie because his untimely death meant that we never had to wait to watch him fall off (assuming he would have). After all, if Big Daddy Kane had died after his second album, imagine how different his legacy would look. Or what if Run DMC had disbanded and stopped recording after Raising Hell.

 

I've never denied Biggie his props (he's not #1 to me but Top 5? Sure.), but I also thought Life After Death didn't deserve the intense praise it got (like most double albums, it was just too long with a lot of tracks I'll never ever care to listen to again) but obviously, coming out post-death, it was treated like the best-thing-ever. Had he lived, I have the feeling that Life After Death would have been seen as a smart commercial effort but I imagine Biggie could/would have surpassed it later. It also imagine, easily, he would have dropped some mediocre material later too: it's impossible to think he would have escaped a fate that even his most talented peers: Jay-Z, Nas, Snoop, etc. have fallen victim to at some point.

 

So yeah, my question is: do we give Biggie too much credit because his catalog was unnaturally frozen in time? Is he like the Robert Johnson of hip-hop?

 

pretty much agree with all that. The yanks tend to have rose tintted spectacles when it comes ot biggioe and for some fucking reason tupac. tupac was fucking dire at best, at worst he was a jumped up mouthy little cunt with the lyrical ability of a pint of milk. big daddy kane or rakim murder biggie straight up.....it is a shame he's dead but he'd already started mixing it with puff daddy so had he not been killed his next album wouold have almost guaranteed to be total toilet......

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I can't wait for the first backpacker to say something like "biggie wasn't that great."
I think he's generally overrated, same as 2Pac. This post from Soul Sides sums it up for me: -

 

Can Biggie really be considered the G.O.A.T. if he only had two albums and a sprinkling of cameos to build that consensus from? (I know I'm not the first to raise the question but whatever). Or do we lionize Biggie because his untimely death meant that we never had to wait to watch him fall off (assuming he would have). After all, if Big Daddy Kane had died after his second album, imagine how different his legacy would look. Or what if Run DMC had disbanded and stopped recording after Raising Hell.

 

I've never denied Biggie his props (he's not #1 to me but Top 5? Sure.), but I also thought Life After Death didn't deserve the intense praise it got (like most double albums, it was just too long with a lot of tracks I'll never ever care to listen to again) but obviously, coming out post-death, it was treated like the best-thing-ever. Had he lived, I have the feeling that Life After Death would have been seen as a smart commercial effort but I imagine Biggie could/would have surpassed it later. It also imagine, easily, he would have dropped some mediocre material later too: it's impossible to think he would have escaped a fate that even his most talented peers: Jay-Z, Nas, Snoop, etc. have fallen victim to at some point.

 

So yeah, my question is: do we give Biggie too much credit because his catalog was unnaturally frozen in time? Is he like the Robert Johnson of hip-hop?

 

pretty much agree with all that. The yanks tend to have rose tintted spectacles when it comes ot biggioe and for some fucking reason tupac. tupac was fucking dire at best, at worst he was a jumped up mouthy little cunt with the lyrical ability of a pint of milk. big daddy kane or rakim murder biggie straight up.....it is a shame he's dead but he'd already started mixing it with puff daddy so had he not been killed his next album wouold have almost guaranteed to be total toilet......

 

 

 

yall are retarted.........the reason "yanks" love him.........is well because they talked about the struggle in a way that no one had....now of course if your not privigled enough to deal with what people go through in certain economic classes in this country ya wouldnt really know.....

 

also....if by yanks you mean new york....the birth place of hip hop......your basically saying that yea those romans have no idea what they are talking about....zeus wasnt a god......

 

you could be right.....but i bet you wouldnt say shit........in rome...

 

if ya dont get it thats fine it wasnt for you then....if you cannot understand why tupac and biggie are considered the best.....then i think you should prolly re-evalutate what your criteria are.....

 

as far as flow.....both of them were great

 

rhyme patterns.....to call tupac's dire..is damn near blasmphy....

 

I love big daddy cane and rakim....2 of my fav's.....but the passion in which tupac was able to carry his message murders thiers......as mainstream as it was....changes was a far better song than either has ever come up with.....yea i said it....

 

lryical talent.....biggie's story to tell.....had some of the best word play ever laid on wax...

 

"ya betta talk to him...for this fist put a spark to him...fuck around shit get dark to him.."

 

lose a major part to him....arm...leg.....she beggin me to stop but he keep gettin closer"

 

 

i mean come on guys are you half way serious.....what age do we call the "golden years"

 

both of them brought hip hop to another level....you cannot predict what they would have done.....they didnt have a chance to do it....and that should count for something....

 

maybe puffy never goes the route he goes if biggie is alive.....

 

maybe dre and pac get back together.....then all you would be on nuts and the chronic 2001 would be the best album of all time no question......maybe M&M doesnt get his break......

 

you could play that game all day....

 

and maybe.........2 men were killed because of money and the fact that they held a major influence over a black community......the likes of malcom and martin......

 

yall need to understand that it was about way more than just the music

 

but it was because of there music that they are both dead.....

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changes was a far better song than either has ever come up with.....yea i said it....
Yeah, you did say it, and now nothing else you say has any credibility whatsoever. 2Pac is the king of fake thuggery.

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/oublierleracism...a-ballet-dancer

 

Then I started thinking the art school I went to was mostly for white kids and rich minorities. I started going, "I would have been totally different had I not been exposed to this."
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yea so because he got a scholarship for being "gifted" does that change tha fact that his mom was a crackhead

 

are you serious.......what was that an attempt of bait and switch......

 

i propose that a song that was about social justice, upbringing of a people that millions of people heard and actually was able to change how some people think about each other...was a better song/more impact than anything rakim or big daddy kane has done....

 

and you post up a ballet video....nice steve.....real nice....fuck you and your credibility...thats some bullshit......

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I can't wait for the first backpacker to say something like "biggie wasn't that great." Biggie would rip 75 assholes in any backpack mc.

 

I don't get rap fans. It seems to me that everyone who does like mainstream hip hop consantly feel the need to hate people who like underground hip hop. I see it all the time. Why do Mainstream Hip Hop fans think that everyone should like the same music as them? It always seems to that if anyone says aything negative about any mainstream hip hop acts that the fans allways get instantly super defensive and start saying things like "Backpacker, geek, pussy rap, nerd, middle class, student rap ect". Why not just let people like what they like.

 

I love Disco and I know most people on this board probably dont like it at all but thats cool. I don't need to give them shit and call them names cause they like something different to me.

 

I ain't just aiming this at you though bro. It's just I see it all the time.

 

(I like some mainstream and Underground hip hop by the way)

 

P.S. Yeah Biggie is an amazing rapper.

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well to clarify my arguement......i would say "alot tight rappers out there aint got no deal"

 

and the best "rapper"......ever has prolly never been heard by anyone hear...prolly some guy somewhere that just ripped it all his life and never gave a fuck to let anyone hear him....

 

but changes was a great song............lol

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I don't know much about lyricism, and lyrics don't sink in with me very well, but i thought I'd throw in my tuppence worth here:

 

i rate Biggie as a story teller, and i think its important to remember that when listening to him...

 

with Tupac, I can take it or leave it. i think he's a good poet, but i'm just not comfortable with the contrast of king thug and sensitive caring guy, which seem to come accross in different songs, though I think Ghostface can pull off the sensitive sort of stuff and the gangsta stuff without seeming hypocritical

 

and in terms of flow and rhythm, I don't think there's many better than ludacris, its just a shame his beats are straight shite

 

so there you go, don't know if that'll help in the slightest,

 

HOLLA!!!

 

@Dis: Disco's fuckin quality, not to metion i've been rockin to jose feliciano quite a bit recently!

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not heard much really...just checkin out escort, i'm not too into the 80's electro sort of sounds, i prefer 70's sort of sounds...same goes with hip hop, i like stuff that sounds more organic and less sequenced or synthy , and i'm a real sucker for easy listening and jazz funk stuff, got new york connection by tom scott the other day, right up my street!

 

fuck knows where this rant's going!?!?!?!

 

wanna see these guys at some point:

 

http://www.myspace.com/caprimusic

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I love Disco and I know most people on this board probably dont like it at all but thats cool. I don't need to give them shit and call them names cause they like something different to me.

 

I like disco. Asshole. ;)

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