snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Check out the specs on this badbwoy...not bad for 500 quid!!! Processor (CPU) INTEL® Core 2 Duo E6400 (2 X 2.13GHz) 1066MHz FSB/2MB L2 Cache Memory (RAM) 2048 MB CORSAIR DDR2 533MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB) Motherboard HIGH END ASUS®: DUAL DDR2, S-ATA, x16 slot, 2 PCI, etc Operating System MICROSOFT WINDOWS® XP PRO (inc. Genuine CD & license) (£95) Vista Upgrade Free Upgrade to Vista Business with purchase of Windows XP Pro USB Options 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD Memory - 1st Hard Disk 160GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm) 2nd Hard Disk NONE RAID (HDD 1 & 2) NONE 1st CD/DVD Drive 18x +/- DVD WRITER (8x +/- Dual Lyr) (Lightscribe) (40x CD-RW) (£20) 2nd CD/DVD Drive NONE Graphics Card INTEGRATED VIA UNICHROME PRO GRAPHICS 2nd Graphics Card NONE Sound Card INTEGRATED 6 CHANNEL (5.1 SURROUND) HIGH DEF. AUDIO Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND Network Facilities ONBOARD 10/100 LAN PORT (ETHERNET) AS STANDARD Floppy Disk Drive NONE Memory Card Reader NONE Case Stylish Black/Silver Trident case + 2 front USB Power Supply & cooling STANDARD 350W PSU with CASE FAN Firewire & Video Editing NONE TV Card NONE Monitor NONE 2nd Monitor NONE Keyboard & Mouse NONE Mouse NONE Speakers NONE Printer NONE Surge Protection NONE Webcam & VoIP NONE Anti-Virus NONE Office Software NONE Warranty 1 Year Return-to-Base incl 1st Month Free Collect & Return Delivery Standard Insured Delivery to UK Mainland (Free) Price (excluding VAT) £500.43 Price £588.00 Order Quantity 1 Bulk discount £0 Total order price (Ex VAT) £500.43 Total order Price £588.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Nice where's it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerpot Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Nice puter snuff, dunno how much 500P is worth in my country, cool one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 From these chaps... https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 cheers snuff I'm after a new one I'll check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas pete Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 damn thats cheap! i want a mac though and what makes it even more tempting is that my brothers new job gets him 20% off apple products! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 dunno how much 500P is worth in my country Bout half a mill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Nice puter snuff, dunno how much 500P is worth in my country 2 camels or 8 women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 Nice puter snuff, dunno how much 500P is worth in my country 2 camels or 8 women heh heh hee...they must be but ugly women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Very good price, very nice chip, RAM and MOBO definately -I'd take a look at that PSU, though. 350W isn't really enough to run today's hardware, you'd probabbly find it flakes out if you added a modern graphics card. Plus a good PSU is the foundation of any stable system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 Very good price, very nice chip, RAM and MOBO definately -I'd take a look at that PSU, though. 350W isn't really enough to run today's hardware, you'd probabbly find it flakes out if you added a modern graphics card. Plus a good PSU is the foundation of any stable system 2 points.....music pc only no fancy graphics card, you can keep your games!...WTF is a PSU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Very good price, very nice chip, RAM and MOBO definately -I'd take a look at that PSU, though. 350W isn't really enough to run today's hardware, you'd probabbly find it flakes out if you added a modern graphics card. Plus a good PSU is the foundation of any stable system 2 points.....music pc only no fancy graphics card, you can keep your games!...WTF is a PSU? Sorry, the PSU is the big lump at the back of the case that takes 230v mains and provides power to all the various components. So basically, if you have a good one then it consistently provides a nice stable voltage across all the different rails; a bad one can drop in voltage, produce radio frequency waves throughout the system or even explode when over-loaded (no shit!). I tend to use cheap/old/shit PC components, but I bought an Antec Truepower a few years ago, and my box has been very stable ever since, I really do think it is the PSU that made this difference. The other bonus is that a good PSU will normall have very quiet fans, definately a bonus for a music making PC, it's definately a bonus for me 'cos I watch a lot of films... Sadly, cos you don't see it, most manufacturers cheap out on this aspect, which is a bit of a shitter since a good PSU is the foundation of a rock-stable system. I got Deeswift to put a thread up about it back in the day, I'll search and see if I can find it... Mind you, I'm only basing this on the fact that it says 350W. It could be a wicked PSU that's lower spec'd, it's just that I don't think many of the 'reputable' manufacturers put out PSU's this low any more. I could be totally wrong! IT's good to know what's inside your box, though, and the PSU is IMO the most important bit. After all, it's the only component directly connected to everything! Yet almost always overlooked. Some learn it the hard way, rare though it is if the PSU goes it is likely to take at least four or five major components with it... my mate's PSU physically exploded and left a large hole scroched in the top of in his hard drive! Fuck knows how.... Anyway, that thread was here http://www.digitalvertigo.co.uk/forum/inde...p?showtopic=100 Bit old but the info is still appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 PS not dissing your wicked new PC Snuff; even if you forked out £50 or so for a solid PSU you'd still have a nice bargain there! Just want you to be in the know, as it were. Oh, one last thing: you mention you're not planning on adding a graphics card, but think about it anyway. Integrated graphics will stress your northbridge a fair bit (it's probabbbly burn you if you touch it!), not to mention hog your system memory. For £20ish a low end GPU would just let your system breathe a little easier. I used to get other little niggles using integrated graphics, like weird graphical corruption whenever my mobile phone went that I've never had with dedicated cards. Again I'm not pissing on your strawberries here, just dishing out the info (I'd kill for a new PC, esp. a core2duo!). Yes, I'm a geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 Does this soud better then? i can still change it it if i like as it's bespoke... 500W (Peak) Quiet Dual Rail PSU incl Case Fan & CPU Cooler (£39) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Does this soud better then? i can still change it it if i like as it's bespoke... 500W (Peak) Quiet Dual Rail PSU incl Case Fan & CPU Cooler (£39) 'Dual rail' is something to look for, as it means the 12V line can be maxed out seperately from the other lines (the 12V is the important one!). If at all possible, try and find out the brand, then you can get a good idea what it is. Also, 500W PEAK is a bullshit value. You need an RMS value, just like with amplifiers and so forth. I accidentally bought a 400W PEAK psu back in the day... never again, it was horrible, if you read the docs it was technically only about 180W RMS and after installing it my system crashed horribly quite frequently. I borrowed an unused Zalman 450W off my (then) flatmate and my problems magically went away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 Also, 500W PEAK is a bullshit value. You need an RMS value, just like with amplifiers and so forth. I accidentally bought a 400W PEAK psu back in the day... never again, it was horrible, if you read the docs it was technically only about 180W RMS and after installing it my system crashed horribly quite frequently. I borrowed an unused Zalman 450W off my (then) flatmate and my problems magically went away... i understand none of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Also, 500W PEAK is a bullshit value. You need an RMS value, just like with amplifiers and so forth. I accidentally bought a 400W PEAK psu back in the day... never again, it was horrible, if you read the docs it was technically only about 180W RMS and after installing it my system crashed horribly quite frequently. I borrowed an unused Zalman 450W off my (then) flatmate and my problems magically went away... i understand none of this Okay, I'll try and break it down a bit You know how cheap amplifier you might see in Argos or on eBay advertise ridiculous power ratings? Like small computer speakers that say 1000W MAX? This is a PEAK rating that they come up with by connecting the amplifier to a high-power resistor instead of a speaker, and covering the amp with liquid nitrogen then pumping as much power through it as absolutely possible. Whatever they get to before it dies a horrible, horrible death becomes their advertised 'PEAK' value -there is no standardised testing so whatever dirty tricks they can use to get to this value are fair game! RMS output is a whole different game. There's still some scope for manipulation, but they still have to provide a sustained output, so this is a much better rule. You need to know what the RMS output is to decide if it is suitable for your system. I hope this helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 You know how cheap amplifier you might see in Argos or on eBay advertise ridiculous power ratings? Like small computer speakers that say 1000W MAX? This is a PEAK rating that they come up with by connecting the amplifier to a high-power resistor instead of a speaker, and covering the amp with liquid nitrogen then pumping as much power through it as absolutely possible. Whatever they get to before it dies a horrible, horrible death becomes their advertised 'PEAK' value -there is no standardised testing so whatever dirty tricks they can use to get to this value are fair game!I hope this helps? got ya...thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokemon sauce Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 i have no idea what is going on in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 If you want to use it for audio - check out some quiet PSUs (Seasonic) and cases (Antec P180 or other custom ones). It's nice not to have to hear too much PC noise.Also - if you can stretch to it - the E6600 chip would be worth an upgrade to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 thats too much money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Sell your ass for a couple of hundred - job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokemon sauce Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 was that a sexual reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 nice pc, id add a dual head graphics card, theyre only about 30 quid and gives you the option of applying an extra monitor which is useful when making tracks in cubase or protools etc as you can have a screen for the mixer and plugins and the other screen for the arrangement view soundcards a bit shit too concidering its for music production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I read this earlier and I totally agree with Liam. Top PC that's let down a bit by the PSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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