My Ecler HAK 360 has given up after 10 years which considering it was second hand isn't too bad. Have looked at repairs and diagnostics and courier will be £100 before any parts and labour. I am probably gonna sell the old one with its current fault, or keep for spares and get a new one. Approved by the wife too ha ha! Anyway when looking at a replacement I can't see anything that looks a major improvement on the Ecler and am probably gonna get another. I have found a site that is selling the HAK 380 for £409. This seems a bargain, is there any issues with the 380 over the 360 that anyone knows of? Can't see why it is priced cheaper than the 360? As far as Ecler go, they haven't actually gone under but liquidated their assets to merge with another co. I don't see any major issue there. So what alternatives are there if any is the final question. To my knowledge the Ecler eternal cross fader is still as good as it gets. I'm not too fussed on any controls etc. As have a couple of dicers that provide all the functionality I need. My budget is round £500. Cheers, Andy