hey thanks for listening... Dee- it definitely needs a bass line- problem was I dumped the whole beat in as stereo track all ready sequenced in the mpc, so I'll have to redo the beat and take off the conga loop, then redump that into the protools session..and i didn't sync to anything-lesson learned though. I'm gonna work on it anyway and update the file when its less chaotic. Sigma, I post a link the server its on as soon as I get it uploaded. now for some amatuer scratching practice on MF Doom instrumental peace.