d00ban Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Does anyone have this information? I was having a little wonder and have no idea personally. I'm guessing that maybe the first battle record wasn't even sold at all and was just pressed up for use by a DJ to compete in DMC? Or maybe not, I dunno? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don't know the answer for sure, but if I had to take an educated guess it would be this: - https://www.discogs.com/Simon-Harris-Beats-Breaks-Scratches/release/102525 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I think the Bullet Proof Skratch Hamsters are credited with the first "battle" record:https://www.discogs.com/Bullet-Proof-Scratch-Hamsters-Hamster-Breaks-Volume-1/master/351052 This was (as far as i know) the first record that had beats and skratch samples arranged in a functional way, with sentences of samples close together, at similar BPMs, and looped breakbeats laid out with juggling in mind. The simon harris records are excellent libraries of sounds, but in practical use they are a bit of a pain compared to what we're used to these days, as the samples are spaced out with large portions of silence between the sounds. BPSH had the forsight to group sounds together so you didnt have to spend time cuing in headphones, you could learn the record easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Having said that... this looks like it came out a year before:https://www.discogs.com/artist/56834-Psychedelic-Skratch-Bastards But im sure i heard someone like disk bigging up BPSH for pioneering that style.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeClockwork Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don't know the answer for sure, but if I had to take an educated guess it would be this: - https://www.discogs.com/Simon-Harris-Beats-Breaks-Scratches/release/102525 I was going to say that. Someone gave me all three of those and the scratch samples are spaced way too far apart to be useful. The beats on the other side are quite cool. Things like BDK - raw, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Does the record produced by Blondies' Chris Stein for the Wild Style film count as the first record produced for DJs to cut up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 For some reason I always thought bionic booger was the first, dunno where I got that idea from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Does the record produced by Blondies' Chris Stein for the Wild Style film count as the first record produced for DJs to cut up with? I don't think so. DJs had been using customized acetates and test presses for a minute for shows and recordings (like when they wanted to cut up their names and stuff). Jayquan talks about stuff like this on his youtube channel, the Foundation. He cites an example or two in early hip hop but who knows how far back it went. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 How about Simon Harris breaks? It's as early as I own and can't think of earlier in terms of a proper pressed run of records and not just dubs. https://www.discogs.com/Simon-Harris-Beats-Breaks-Scratches/release/102525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yeah to be fair the simon harris stuff was almost certainly produced with dmc type performances in mind... so despite the functionality it probably remains the first. Unless theres some other undergrounder ones from that era??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't one of the Jive Rhythm Trax records have scratch samples on it? That might be earlier than Simon Harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I've only got vol 1 of Jive Rhythm Trax but that doesn't have any samples like the Simon Harris breaks. I had always heard Simon Harris getting the nod as the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Hmm interesting. Wonder if Vekked could put it to his 45k followers and see what they think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Beats breaks and scratches, end of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 How about some of the early DMC service records...I've been told they may have had samples to scratch on some of them...anyone confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkei Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 D-Styles and DJ RPM were in a DJ-Group with a guy (can't recall his name), who made the first Battle Break. I thought reading this once on Ds Forum... I think his name was DJ Nutcase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Does anyone have this information? I was having a little wonder and have no idea personally. The first battle record ? Easy .. Lock the thread... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-L Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Does the record produced by Blondies' Chris Stein for the Wild Style film count as the first record produced for DJs to cut up with? I don't think so. DJs had been using customized acetates and test presses for a minute for shows and recordings (like when they wanted to cut up their names and stuff). Jayquan talks about stuff like this on his youtube channel, the Foundation. He cites an example or two in early hip hop but who knows how far back it went. Cool. Good stuff, I will have to check his channel,sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've always thought it was the first Simon Harris "Breaks, Beats and Scratches". I got turntables at the start of '91 and - as far I know - the Simon Harris records were the only ones of their kind, until the first Dirtstyle came out in '92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeClockwork Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 https://youtu.be/IKphlX5XZ5k?t=1m38s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutdisco Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Simon harris, 'BEATS BREAKS & SCRATCHES'With the grey/green sleeve and a 1200 on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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