trevor dane Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 i was thinking about buying a synth, i was looking into the moog sub phatty and roland gaia. im not sure if i should even buy one but if so are there others i should look into id like to see some good demo vids. its either a synth or a sound system and im sort of leaning towards the sound system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 it totally depends what you're after from a synth. if you want something that plays chords then that's not possible with the moog as it's monophonic. if you want something that can do a lot have a look at the korg minilogue which is polyphonic. Moogs are awesome but if you want something versatile you probably want something that's poly too. OR get a softsynth and work out what you want based on how you use that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Knowing what budget you have to spend on a synth would be a big plus here mate,also what type of music would you be making with it ? Are you wanting a brand new instrument or would you consider second hand ? the market is huge either way but without knowing what your budget is its hard to offer any advice and as Jon said it all depends on what you would want from the synth itself anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 OR get a softsynth and work out what you want based on how you use that. This. I know far too many gear nerds who think that they'll become a great producer once they buy enough hardware synths, spend all their spare time reading soundonsound, and never actually make any music. Meanwhile I know loads of great producers who just started banging out tunes using softsynths first and bought hardware synths once they had the luxury of getting paid for their work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I had little hardware, then went fully software (Amiga), then had lots of hardware, then went fully software again (PC) then ridiculous amounts of hardware, now heading back towards fully software with controllers, always make ten times as many songs in software as i do with hardare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
props to the finger Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 The MOOGs is are lovely sounding synths, but it does require som experience to make it sit good in a mix according to people I know who owns them. I myself have only owned Dave Smith Instruments synthesizers, specifically the desktop Evolver and the Tetr4. The Evolver was a hybrid digital/analog synthesizer with tons of modulation possibilities and I loved it. Lost it when my appartment burned down, so purchased a Tetr4 instead of getting a new Evolver... and boy was i wrong in doing that. The most cumbersome fucking synthesizer ever, hated it dearly and ended up just using free VSTs instead. I would personally look at the Native Instruments Monark for a Moog-like VST. For something polyphonic, not really sure though, but a google search will net you some really cool stuff online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 In terms of VSTs I'd recommend Serum as a great versatile soft synth. I tend to write a lot of my ideas in that as it's nice and quick to use and then if I want a big hardware sound once the song is written I can run the midi into my Moog and make a patch with that. When I started getting more into production at the end of 2013 I bought a fair bit of hardware over a 18 month period and a lot of it was me trying to learn synthesis and how to make certain sounds, which I did, but I found that certain instruments suited my 'sound' better than others: I use some bits every day and others every so often. I don't regret it as they've all been nice to have and play with but I could have saved money in the long run - I own three monosynths now, each have been an upgrade over the previous one I owned and they all can do different things and have their own sound and character but it's not 'necessary' per se. If you're really looking to get a piece of hardware over software I'd highly recommend checking out the Minilogue - it looks really versatile and is capable of a wide variety of mono and poly sounds and is really affordable for a new poly imo. I don't own one myself but the times I've used one they've been really fun to use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Serum is just the most ridiculously powerful beast, I concur on that choice, I am tempted to say it is overpriced, but i dont use anything else anymore, so really its priceless to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Don't listen to these guys, just jump straight in with both feet - I recommended an old Yamaha CS-80. Polyphonic, reliable, good value, lightweight, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Seriously rock well ?Arturias CS80 VST is shit, what are you thinking lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Actually the Yamaha CS 80 is a phat ass synth check out the Bladerunner soundtrack by Vangelis or "Dune" by those masters of cutting edge Rock n Roll the one and only Toto Totally rocking it .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/cs80.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Actually the Yamaha CS 80 is a phat ass synth check out the Bladerunner soundtrack by Vangelis or "Dune" by those masters of cutting edge Rock n Roll the one and only Toto Totally rocking it .. Bladerunner Soundtrack? Dune soundtrack? I like your style. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/cs80.php I was kidding hahaha, Hardware vs software and all that, never mind, it was about as funny as a dead rat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor dane Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 thanks, i want something to lay out nice melodies with and bass, i tried some roland keyboard which was great i dont remember the name but it sounded really nice, i dont think im gonna get the moog ill look into some of the others, im also thinking about the maschine im a big native instruments fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just buy Komplete then It is synth heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00ban Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Serum kills my CPU, it's so intensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 thanks, i want something to lay out nice melodies with and bass, i tried some roland keyboard which was great i dont remember the name but it sounded really nice, i dont think im gonna get the moog ill look into some of the others, im also thinking about the maschine im a big native instruments fan.I'd go for the minilogue. I'd recommend going to a musuc shop and trying a few out too but from what you're saying that one ticks the boxes. If you do go software you don't need to get all the native instruments stuff, you could do it all in serum (apart from the sample libraries and stuff like granular synthesis). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 You can do it all in Serum apart from sample libraries, well thats about 90% of Komplete it cant do then haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Yep but he's not looking for sample libraries, he's looking for a synth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor dane Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 thanks jon that does look like a good value too for what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Yep but he's not looking for sample libraries, he's looking for a synth Either you have never used Kontakt, or you just made a mistake there, Kontakt is one of the most advanced synth ever built, even if it is a sampler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Yep but he's not looking for sample libraries, he's looking for a synth Either you have never used Kontakt, or you just made a mistake there, Kontakt is one of the most advanced synth ever built, even if it is a sampler Yep, I'm aware of that What I'm trying to say, as was rasteri, is that many people find it's best (and cheaper to boot) just to learn one thing well at the stage Trevor is at and get one thing that covers a lot of ground whether it's software or hardware and then pick up other bits later. I thought getting Komplete would be a bit overwhelming as you get so much stuff to play with, even though lots of it is wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 And the point i was making is that, He likes NI, so why spend nearly as much on one NI product, when you could just buy Komplete, you do not have to learn it all at the same time, in fact you don't even have to install it at the same time.If he wants NI, then Komplete is the better deal over anything else they offer (Single items from NI are a Komplete rip off) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I still reckon you're all wrong. Go big, go expensive, go vintage or go home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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