Phology Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 today i had 6 hours of Music Theory and Introductory Acoustics lectures.... im sittin there (trying to) listening to wat he was saying, its all very interesting, and i am interested in it all....but im thinking, none - or very little - applies to wat I actually do wen making music... we learn about musical notation, basic audio priciples (decibels, voltage, etc....), wave lengths, and various other topics......now a lot of people in my classes already seem to know a fair bit about notation, and some know about there audio systems.......am i the only one there sitting thinking ("what the hell does this all mean????") i make music mainly by ear, what sounds go with other sounds. beats, drums, and the overall feeling of the track, where i want it to, changes in the track and so on......and i dont like it wen things get too technical, i kind of takes all the fun out of it for me!like wen peeps go into "OH DONT YOU KNOW HOW TO DO A DOUBLE CLICK-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH........." half the time in dont know wat im doing!! i just do it! hmmm..... im off to hand in some coursework!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista_Ed Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 ah right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 today i had 6 hours of Music Theory and Introductory Acoustics lectures.... im sittin there (trying to) listening to wat he was saying, its all very interesting, and i am interested in it all....but im thinking, none - or very little - applies to wat I actually do wen making music... we learn about musical notation, basic audio priciples (decibels, voltage, etc....), wave lengths, and various other topics......now a lot of people in my classes already seem to know a fair bit about notation, and some know about there audio systems.......am i the only one there sitting thinking ("what the hell does this all mean????") i make music mainly by ear, what sounds go with other sounds. beats, drums, and the overall feeling of the track, where i want it to, changes in the track and so on......and i dont like it wen things get too technical, i kind of takes all the fun out of it for me!like wen peeps go into "OH DONT YOU KNOW HOW TO DO A DOUBLE CLICK-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH........." half the time in dont know wat im doing!! i just do it! hmmm..... I'm exactly the same. I've never had musical education and i've learned turntables and am learning guitar by trial and error by listening. as soon as anyone mentions key i havn't got a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wax On Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 acoustics is good for modulation effects programming, changing frequencies to bpm's etc. there's plenty of other good stuff, good understanding of reverb etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dextrous Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 If you want a job as any sort of sound engineer/ technician etc it's very important. I doubt anyone paying you for studio time would be happy while you set all of the mics up "by ear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phology Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 its not like im totally thick to the whole subjecti understand alot of it and am learning loads more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dextrous Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I'm just saying technical knowledge means that you have the know how to make better decisions quicker. What's the qualification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phology Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 BaHONS Degree In Sound & Media basically sound for the moving image.. ps - i wernt aiming that at you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$a!n+ Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 today i had 6 hours of Music Theory and Introductory Acoustics lectures.... im sittin there (trying to) listening to wat he was saying, its all very interesting, and i am interested in it all....but im thinking, none - or very little - applies to wat I actually do wen making music... we learn about musical notation, basic audio priciples (decibels, voltage, etc....), wave lengths, and various other topics......now a lot of people in my classes already seem to know a fair bit about notation, and some know about there audio systems.......am i the only one there sitting thinking ("what the hell does this all mean????") i make music mainly by ear, what sounds go with other sounds. beats, drums, and the overall feeling of the track, where i want it to, changes in the track and so on......and i dont like it wen things get too technical, i kind of takes all the fun out of it for me!like wen peeps go into "OH DONT YOU KNOW HOW TO DO A DOUBLE CLICK-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH........." half the time in dont know wat im doing!! i just do it! hmmm..... im off to hand in some coursework!!! Technicality is all about communication with others. If your making music by yourself and you dont need to communicate your ideas to others you dont need to understand the technicalities. If you plan on working with other artists, you have to communicate with a standard language. I know this from working with bands. I can say lets make this part build up and explode then bring it back down, or I can describe it like whatever I can to get my point across about what I am trying to do...OR...I can say crescendo to decrescendo (technical terms) and everyone knows. I can say play a note that sounds like this and humm a note and let them feel around until they find it or I can say play an "A." If your working with other scratch musicians to create composistions you'll have to communicate breakdowns and verses and chorus, not to mention rudement patterns. Without standard technicality, your re-inventing the wheel everytime. I also play and create by ear when woring by myself. But when it is time to bring a song I wrote to the band to play, I have to prepar my technical mumbo jumbo so I can explain to everyone with one sheet of paper. Or we actually use a dry erase board in the jam room. But you have to communicate on a standard. PLUS...If your going for a jumbo and someone else is going for the same job and they have the technical skills that you dont...They will get the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Scorpio Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Cats like the Gershwin brothers wrote some of the most memorable turnes of 1920/30's without having learnt any actual music notes. There is however, no FUCKING WAY you'd get away with that nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Broken Sword Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 ah right laugh out loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnice Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 its like im totally thick to the whole subjecti don't understand alot of it and am not learning loads more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dextrous Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 At the end of the day a degree is an academic qualification not a vocational one and so most of the subject is going to be theoretical.That's why it's a degree and not a BTEC or whatever. If you want a degree the same as someone doing Maths, Physics, Chemistry etc you need to earn it somehow and the technical side of Music tech is how you do it. You can't expect to piss around having a jam session every day and be awarded a degree. Dextrous BSc (Hons) Music Technology Kali - the Beatles couldn't read music either and if you want a modern day example Jay Kay doesn't read music and has (had) very little technical skills and still managed to write some cracking pop songs. Of course you can get away with it nowadays if you've got talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phology Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 its like im totally thick to the whole subjecti don't understand alot of it and am not learning loads more oh dear matt, oh dear....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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