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in fact that's one of the main reasons i never got too satisfied on my vestax. everything felt heavy and sluggish and even though the Pro X Fade was definitely an improvement i couldn't get my head around the way the vestax pmc 06 always felt to me. the rane and ecler faders were so much more appealing than any vestax CF i ever tried. i just didnt have the money for another mixer back then and was happy i could learn scratching on a solid mixer nonetheless. thanks for adding that though. i appreciate your concerns :-) cheers!

i agree! thanks a lot Rock Well.

alright thanks for the insights Rock Well. i am pretty confident i will go with the ecler 360. it fits my expectations most and isnt too expensive either. nice! thanks for your help guys. i learned a lot and cant wait to do start recording new stuff

@freshcuts thanks for sharing your story! i am based in germany/EU. ecler HAK 360's are available at ~300EUR on ebay. pretty nice deal actually. i will get myself a new one though. 480EUR for a new one is quite nice.

it's all good. however, my priority isn't DVS. i just saw some well known scratchers using the Z2, that was mainly the reason i asked. i am still a bit confused since lots of things are new to me after so many years and since ive never been into mixers too much. thanks for your clarification though.

you came up with pretty good points there jeljms. thanks for that. however, as far as i know the Rane TTM56S is compatible with serato, isn't it? after all i definitely tend between the Ecler HAK 360 and the Rane TTM56. I just struggle to decide which to go for. maybe someone has a solid point why to choose one over the other. thanks for every input guys. your comments helped me clarify lots of things i wasn't aware of.

thanks for all your additional replies guys. you're really helping me out i'd definitely prefer getting a new mixer with a solid crossfader rather than upgrading my vestax pmc 06 for the 3rd time. i've never been too stoked about the vestax pmc 06 to be honest. it served me well lots of years and has been a solid mixer but i've never been too satisfied in general. what do you guys think of the Traktor Kontrol Z2? compared to the ecler hak 360 and rane TTM56s? any pro's and con's? the Traktor Kontrol Z2 is available at a really reasonable price and comes with Traktor Scratch Pro, that caught my attention. Rock Well you mentioned something about the Z2 and the innofader? Is the default fader of the Z2 worse i.e do people upgrade their Z2's with innofaders? If that's the case i will definitely stick to Ecler/Rane TTM56.

yeah, thanks for all your valuable replies guys. i really appreciate each and everyone of your suggestions. the issue i have with getting a new fader for my vestax pmc 06 is that it would be the 3rd time i am upgrading this mixer with a new fader and each time i spent more than 100bucks for each upgrade. i tried the Penny and Giles Fader 1st, it was okay but i wasnt too impressed and replaced it with the Pro X Fade eventually which i actually liked a lot. I am still using the Pro X Fade in my Vestax and it's cool but i remember having a Rane and Ecler once in my hands and their faders felt immediately "right" to me. the Pro X Fade is cool but i cutted like crazy for years on it and i feel like it's really time for an upgrade. But i dont feel like upgrading the Crossfader for the 3rd time to be honest. And like Freshcuts mentioned correctly, the Vestax PMC 06 lacks master-cue which is quite annoying. Since i've never been a fan of Pioneer products the both suggestions that were appealing most to me were the Rane TTM56 or the Ecler Hak 360. Now DJ Rock Well's statement about the TTM56S was quite interesting since i didnt know the TTM56S is of different build-quality than the original TTM56. I'm not sure how easy it will be to find a used original TTM56. i know that the TTM 56S is currently available for about 500€ used on ebay. the Ecler Hak 360 however is available at ~500€ new which i find quite reasonable for a new mixer that is used for scratching purposes exlusively and had such a good reputation for the last decade amongst many scratch-addicts. am i on the right track? thanks for all your help guys! really appreciating all your expertise.

hey guys, so after a veeery long break of approximately ~8 years i just recently started scratching again. so i dug up my old vestax pmc 06 and turntable and i was having a blast but my mixer feels very outworn and i used to get the best out of it long ago anyway. thus i am currently looking for a new mixer. my highest priority is scratching. i don't even own a 2nd turntable currently and i havent considered getting additional things like SERATO anytime soon but i might consider getting these things sooner or later still. i also considered simply getting a new crossfader like the innofader pro2 for my vestax pmc 06 like i used to do with the PRO X FADE back in old days but i don't think it's worth the hustle since my mixer is outdated anyway and before i spend approximately 200bucks on a new fader in a crappy mixer i'd rather use 500bucks for a completely new mixer. i don't really have a budget line. i even considered getting myself a rane TTM56 since i always kinda wanted to own one but considering i do scratching only, i dont know if a rane ttm56 is worth the money in my case. i know that the ecler hak360 used to have a very solid reputation amongst scratchers like 10 years ago but maybe there are new and other options i'm just not aware of. what's most important to me is the smoothness and cut points. its really most important the cuts are as sharp as any possible without any fading and it should feel smooth cutting. that's pretty much it. my budget is somewhere between 200-800€ (since i even considered getting a new Rane TTM56) but i'm quite confident that there are mixers that fit my expectations for way less than 800€. since i might want to add serato to my setup in the near future, it might be helpfull to know whether the mixers you suggest are compatible with serato. however, serato is really not too important. i guess i won't get it anyway. so don't focus on that. thank you guys for any help. i'm really appreciating any suggestions cheers

damn, that sounds so dope. kinda musical stuff makes fun to listen to. that sort of track in a longer version could be nice.. cheers

great stuff...thanks a lot.

i tried the p&g..didn't liked it as much as the pro x fade.

i've bought one of these from a well known friend last year... it was already used too but that turntable is really sick..my younger brother uses the pdx 2000 mk2 but i like the older version more. the pdx2000. seriously, the needle is never skipping..even if it sounds like a joke. but ive read that numerous people had troubl with their pdx...could be that i had luck. dunno ive payed 200 € too for mine. hope i could help cheers

thx dudes! thx a lot nino

Sup guys i completed a looper for some scratching .. looper.exe looper.swf i hope you enjoy it :-) feedback appreciated cheers

well, thats true. i wouldn't call it practise as well and i didn't want to make you think that i'm posting a practise file i didn't know how to name the title of this topic. hope you don't mind thx 4 the comments cheers

thx nino glad to hear you like it!

post production ive recorded the scratches seperated from each other

ah, now i know what you were talkin about my bad sec 16 is just a simple glitch effect, the only effect and the only part on that track i used one.

thx for your feedback guys there is no delay on the scratchparts cheers

sup a short audio file i did kind of a practisefile or something similar..but i made all by myself this time i hope you like it though link it is a little bit short but feedback is appreciated nevertheless cheers

that file is sick the beat has so much power ! damn