pffft....do you? A WHA A WHA, A WHA A WHA, A WHA A WHA!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its waka waka waka waka waka BTW. I didnt mean to sound rude. I was really asking if he knew what a flare sounded like. Find a good clean audio file of a Flare and keep listen and trying until you can mimick it. If you know what a flare sounds like and you think that yours sound like sloppy chirps the thay prob sound like that to us. It sounds like you getting the hang of it for sure. I aint no qbert myself. But I would say try and concentrate on hearing the record change directions on each side of the flare. If you dont hear that it kinda takes away from the flare sound. Concentrate on when the fader is open rather than when it is off. So you will have two distinct sounds on each side of the click. Hence the WAKA (CLICK) WAKA (CLICK) WAKA (CLICK) WAKA (CLICK) or waka waka waka waka. Go fozzy bear! BTW I would hold out on the faderless crabs until you at least get flares down. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> the ones in taht file sucked ass big time, i have had them sound better, but yea i know whatcha mean, i'm just rrying to practice faderless stuff, like the faderless falre where you just pat donw your fader hand or thumb instead of clicking, which is something i forgot to use Also thanks for the file sigma, i was using Dub se7ens video for flares before but it just show his fader hand it helps notw that i know what the 2 click should sound like, like in case i'm by accident throwing in an extra click