Guest Symatic Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 UGHHHHHHH I foolishly ordered a Rane 62 fader, forgetting they have different connectors (thanks Rane!) it's got 4 pins and the old ones have 6 pins but it looks like they only use 4.... has anyone hacked these together before? I want to install this in my original TTM56. I'm hoping if i connect the right connectors that it'll still work??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 heres the original style connector: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunknow Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Might be an adapter available, otherwise, I'd speak to Sennheiser spares http://spares.sennheiser.co.uk/rane They've always been helpful, when I've spoken to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Connection aside, is that the first generation of the 62 fader? I only ask because of black bit on the rails, although I don't know if the newest ones (3rd version that replaced the clear 2nd gen ones) is also black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I dunno what gen it is.... it was £30 so i just grabbed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELGEE Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 If thats a 4 pin fader will it go in a vestax mixer? £30 is a steal, good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Apparently the timeline for Rane faders (56 onwards) goes: Brown (56 & 57) Black (First lot of 62s - they can develop hairline cracks and break) Clear (Second lot of 62s) White My 56 and 57 both had the brown faders and my 62 had the clears, so I can confirm that much. I've never seen the black four pin model though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Oh ok, so black does mean first gen of the 62 and onwards faders. In that case I wouldn't bother working out how to connect it as it'll only be around for a month or so anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 dammit.... maybe i can bastardise it into working and get an infinity fader thingwould prob just be a line fader anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Are you down a fader then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 yeah - I got a 2nd ttm56 so its easier to do Lords shows and just to generally see me through the oncoming apocalypse.thing is it came with a innofader in it and the original owner lost the old rane fader. the inno cuts in really weirdly, like it has the same 3-step cut in that Ranes have, but its really noticable, like its a good couple of mm to get from off to on.... its just annoying and also innofaders are just more trouble than theyre worth in my opinion. especially in rane products, the amount of exta cables and insulation and adapters in there now is silly. so i just wanna get it back to having normal rane faders all round. if i can get this fader basterdised ill just stick it in the line fader i use the least, and if it breaks i'll pimp it into a infinity fader..... I'd happily swap the inno pro for a OG rane fader but after my sterling review i can't imagine anyone being up for that. I've just been looking for a normal OG rane fadr for feggin ages now so i guess i just got desperate when I bought this one haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I'd happily swap the inno pro for a OG rane fader but after my sterling review i can't imagine anyone being up for that. So do the brown carrier faders not show up on eBay etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasteri Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I've never done this, but you could try building an adapter. The pinout for the old style connector is : 1 - VDD2 - VSS3 - Signal4 - Signal5 - VSS6 - VDD(you'll notice pins 4-6 are a mirror image of 1-3, this is so the connector can be plugged in either way round) I believe the new style connector is :1 - VDD2 - VSS3 - Signal4 - SignalPin1 is on the right-hand-side of the pic Si posted.I have no idea if they're interchangeable, but it couldn't hurt to try I suppose. Unless I'm wrong about these pinouts, haha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Broke - no theyre hard to come by and there is no supplier since rane got taken over by inmusic. Rasteri - i'll see if i can make an adapter from that, nice one for figuring it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 What kind of newb puts an Innofader in a 56? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 He had it well early on i think, so maybe it seemed like a decent upgrade at the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Although my 56 fader eventually needed a replacement carrier (still brown though), my 57 fader is still as good as the day I got it. The 62 is another story though, I never liked the stock standard clear carrier fader. It felt like a new mixer when I eventually put the Inno Pro 2 in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 could be the difference there - this mixer has a inno pro in there, so the original version i guess. maybe they made it better.... Tableturnsmore sorted inno pro 2 on his 62 but i remember it being a ball ache to set up and it seemed to suffer if the weather got cold.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 To give Innofader a tiny bit of credit where it's due, Paul's Pro2 in his Z2 is finally good. But pretty much every prior incarnation of that fader in any mixer left me a bit cold. Definitely not as good at first as the hype suggested. And then there's the ball ache of setup, occasional recalibration, getting upset by temp and humidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I put one in my Rane 54 and it breathed new useful life into that mixer. After initial calibration it was great (although I was never traveling with it). I still wouldn't swap out a 56 fader for one. A lot of people got carried away with the whole innofader thing. To me it was a lot like putting a straight tonearm on a Techincs 1200, sacrificing tons of engineering for mixed results. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 so thanks to a very generous Rockwell I now have an old-connector-style Rane fader - Thanks Rocky! gonna still mess with the 62 fader and see if i can make it work.... weirdly theres a 4 pin connector on the PCB of the TTM56 right next to where you plug your fader cable into, and itt labelled "P&G XFADE". did P&G make a fader for ranes? was this an unused idea? will it work with the 62 style 4-pin faders? WHO KNOWS... lets find out on next weeks episode of EXTREME FADER NERDERY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Last week I had to take the Innofader out because it starting bleeding thanks to some strange issue with the Sixty Two. It doesn't bleed if I put it in the 06 and if I put a different Inno in the Sixty Two I get the same problem. So it's not the Inno per se, more like some sort of problem that's developed with my mixer recently. I spent hours resetting, reconfiguring... I even had Elliot on the FB chat trying to sort it out.Anyway, long story short (or TL;DR for you youngsters), I've gone back to a Rane fader except it's the fader board, rails and sensor part from the Sixty Two fader, with a brown 56 carrier/stem part and an Innofader cap on top. Sort of a Frankenstein's monster of faders... but it works beautifully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yeah the moral of the story is... RANE WHAT IN THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELGEE Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 You could always buy these....https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232578030802 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Yeah i saw em but i also wanna know if the modding could work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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