Frost Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 would this be a good idea, production wise? my currrent speaker set up most definately wont be a good idea. I've also got some AKG k181's lying around somewhere, would these be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy penguin Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 hd 25s are good.. if you get to know them in relation to some good moniters.but they are not great but usable.. i've even used them for some mastering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I love those HD-25s but in general you shouldn't monitor with headphones. I do, unfortunately, because I do stuff when everyone is asleep so can't really turn it up anyways... And for monitoring, I'd use an open ear design over a closed (unless you are recording vocals or something obviously). I use two different pairs of open-ear cans. Sennheiser HD 555s are my favorite but the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 is also a great pair. The 555s have better bass reproduction but the 700s are more comfortable and probably more detailed in the mids. Some people swear by Grado, but I've never tried them and both those pairs are supposed to be comparable if not better unless you are getting the all wood Grados. Also Grados are not really for the type of music we listen to and have pretty shit bass from what I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I've always found hd25s sound too forward, they're not that nuanced. I think it's because they're small cones that push into your head so much. That said they're very very clear from a frequency balance perspective... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 okay thanks people. whats the difference between open and closed cup? what would the hd-25's be considered as? yes, i'm dim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 It's quite literal - open back is a meshed back so sound escapes, whereas closed back like the 25s forces sound to only come out of the side pointing at ur ears...I actually wrote a free book u can download from my site with this kinda info in it if you're interested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 yes please! thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 i like hd 25-s for djing. dirks right though, some open back headphones will sound more 'real'. i never liked any grados i listened to, even their £1000 ones, i think they have too much treble and not enough bass but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^^Thats what I have heard. That's why I like the 555s. They are pretty nice all around and even better if you use a pre-amp (but not necessary). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symatic Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 yeah good preamps are a good idea for open back headphones. but you've got a xone 02 dont you dirk? the headphone amp in that is pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Yeah, they sound nice on that. I rarely use my preamp but when I do it's audio coming out of my laptop. Seems fine coming out of my interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Get yourself a Beyerdynamic A1 and a pair of Grado PS1000s and you'll be good to go, Frosty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 FLOL! I'd hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 i have those and use em alot on a night for producing, theyre decent. i wouldnt do everything on those headphones but if you have speakers to switch between and compare then theyre a lovely additional set of monitors to run a mix through for cross comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2k Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Fuck no, hd25 are great djing headphones and I like to use them when recording vocalists but don't try to mixdown in them. Check out Beyerdynamic DT-990pros (or 880s or 770s) and Sennheiser 280 (and I think 260s). Also the new KRK ones are supposed to be pretty good so I hear. hd25s are loud and punch but far from flat and the bass is crap and to top it off the are not comfortable when wearing for extended periods of time, the DT-990s I could comfortably wear for my entire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 hmmmm okay, i've got a pair of these lying around (AKG k181): http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,909,pid,909,nodeid,2,_language,EN.html i know it's a long shot but would you say these would be better or worse than the HD25's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 As most people gave said - I liked the HD25s for DJing but they're not the ones for mastering. For those people who are completely against the idea of mastering in headphones, though, it's probably worth mentioning that No Sleep Nigel does that all the time and swears by his pair of HD650s. I got a pair on his recommendation and I trust them completely. I know the ins and outs of "never ever master on headphones" that people like to bang on about but I get a far truer sound on the HD650s than I do from my Kef Cadenzas - purely because of the shape of the room I produce tracks in (which is an odd, boxy but not square room with most of one side completely open). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdiggla Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 For $500 I'd hope they were good enough to master! I'm interested tho... Can't turn up too loud anymore at night with the kids sleeping. I been using open-ear like those HD650s but not nearly on that price level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I've been in the "kids sleeping" boat for years and years mate - I know exactly what you're saying. it's been headphone production tactics since the late 90s but regardless of how good the HD650s are, I always prefer to give things a listen on a few different things the morning after (regular hi-fi speakers, car stereo, regular headphones etc.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broke Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 As most people gave said - I liked the HD25s for DJing but they're not the ones for mastering. For those people who are completely against the idea of mastering in headphones, though, it's probably worth mentioning that No Sleep Nigel does that all the time and swears by his pair of HD650s. I got a pair on his recommendation and I trust them completely. I know the ins and outs of "never ever master on headphones" that people like to bang on about but I get a far truer sound on the HD650s than I do from my Kef Cadenzas - purely because of the shape of the room I produce tracks in (which is an odd, boxy but not square room with most of one side completely open). I was about to say "don't use headphones for mastering", but I like the sound of these HD650s. EDIT: ouch, the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I've got some HD650s and although I don't have much to directly compare to, they definitely sound very very nice and clear. Quite comfy for long periods too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yeah, I always liked the comfort aspect of them. After a fair few hours they become just uncomfortable enough to encourage me to take a break, which I always see as pretty good thing, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfsop Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Those Superlux headphones are very cheap (about 30€) and sound good: http://www.cnet.com/products/superlux-hd681/Pretty much an AKG rip-off but they might be a nice solution if you don't want to spend too much on monitoring headphones. But they dont have the beats logo so i cant wear them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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