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#1 Karol

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:45 AM

What's up yall, I've progress a lot since I lately posted here, but when I watch some videos of such cutters as qbet tigerstyle and all of the greatest I cannot imagine how fast and strong they are. Plus how clear their scratches are. Do you guys have any special training tips on how to develop such a great skills? I'm training amost every day for at least 2 hours (yeah qbert has been training for 30 years/ 12 hours a day). When it comes to new techniques I pretty quickly get a grasp and can do them on regular tempo. But when it comes to speed, its a whole fucking struggle to get that full speed and repeat it over 8 bars. I've been learning boomerangs for 2 years still cannot repeat them over 8 bars in double time. My orbits flares are pretty fast, yet not that fast as somebody else's. How long have you been practicing one technique to master it completely?  


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#2 Symatic

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:36 PM

Relax!
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#3 MadAbbott

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:46 PM

If you're doing 2 hours a day and varying it over different tempos and trying new things I'm sure you're on the right track. I noticed the speed of my stabs and chirps definitely improved when I made sure to do even just 10-20 mins a day on them, just drilling the basics.

 

Don't know if you've seen it but there is an excellent video where Vekked goes through his drilling routines for boomerangs etc you may get some tips there. https://www.pyramind...-world-champion

 

I think if you're having some troubles speeding up the techniques there may be some things you can tweak in your technique - maybe post a vid and one of the scratch dons in here will be happy to help you out if they see something. 

To be honest I look at loads of other people scratching and however much I'm sure we're putting our clicks in the same places, things just don't sound the same and I guess that's just based on human difference, everyone moves the record slightly differently....


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:09 PM

So is the best way to improve record hand control just repetition? Or is there something additional to be doing to make my record hand (which is my non-dominant hand BTW) less sloppy?


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:31 PM

I know sirness preaches practising with the platter off, making your forward sounds sound less like everyone else and more unique. Not sure really, I used to practise all kinds of tear variations (ie 2 fwd 1 back, 3 fwd 3 back etc) loads while watching tv and stuff and I don't feel I'm any good at them really, and they're still much easier on my dominant hand which I don't use for scratching, so unless you're ambidextrous I guess it's pretty hard to get the record hand control level up there with dominant hand scratchers...

I'd say def get a portable TT if you haven't already, just for being able to practise loads where you wouldn't normally be able to set decks up.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:33 PM

I imagine trying to do things with your weak hand in everyday life that you'd normally do with the strong one (pause) might help? I guess if we never use our weak hands for other stuff we can't expect it to scratch well either....



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:51 PM

I imagine trying to do things with your weak hand in everyday life that you'd normally do with the strong one (pause) might help? I guess if we never use our weak hands for other stuff we can't expect it to scratch well either....

 

Yeah I do that already. I'm not ambidextrous but my left isn't too far behind my right. Tried switching to left on the fader but wasn't very comfortable and felt like such a step backwards that I switched back. 


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 Have you considered getting an RME? 

 

 


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:38 PM



Here are my latest videos. Dirt Style tempo is rather fast, so my variations of scratches oscillate between one click flares and original autobans/boomerangs shall we say ? cresent flare here and there. 

Should you any scratch 'don' has any tips, share'em plz.   


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#9 Karol

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:04 PM

Relax!

Oh shut it Symatic. I've seen you battling dj chile. You are dope mate. :d


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#10 MadAbbott

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:16 PM

He is definitely one of the scratch Dons i was referring to!
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#11 Symatic

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:12 PM

 

Relax!

Oh shut it Symatic. I've seen you battling dj chile. You are dope mate. :d

 

 

haha thankyou but i meant it - relaxing is so important. if you are tense you waste energy and restrict movement. also if you are relaxed in your mind you can be more creative

 

skratchlord battle don and allround musical badass DJackulate is really good at being relaxed and he can achieve very expressive cuts fast or slow without effort. Jimmy P seems to be in a next level of meditative relaxation all the time....

 

Q also preaches the same shiz i tihnk



#12 Karol

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:48 PM

Q was born a genius and a prodigy. He is like Confucius sitting on a whirling log for 24 hours without even blinking. He can do scribbles for hours and he does not fatigue his wrist. Scratch master of the world, Technician. I'd rather listen to your advices than watch a god-blessed child. :d

 

I've seen one of this djackulate videos on yt. He does not even look at the record. btw. He looks like he is stoned and having a scratching rapture.  


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 12:05 AM

It sounds like you're impatient that you're not at higher level already. From watching your two videos, I'd say you're doing well. Just keep practicing and like Sy said, make sure you relax when you're cutting. Most importantly, just enjoy it. Come cut with us on TinyChat.

https://tinychat.com/turntablistworld
 

Q was born a genius and a prodigy. He is like Confucius sitting on a whirling log for 24 hours without even blinking. He can do scribbles for hours and he does not fatigue his wrist. Scratch master of the world, Technician. I'd rather listen to your advices than watch a god-blessed child. :d


That's new level of Q-Bert fanboying right there lol


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#14 Karol

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 05:56 PM

Tinychat.com Yeah I come over there from time to time. What's your nickname?



#15 Symatic

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 07:20 PM

Broke is still broke on tiny :)
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#16 Vet

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:51 AM

There's a few main things that will greatly improve your scratching.

#1 - Hand *flexibility* exercises rather than *strengthening* exercises. This is especially true with record control and within that even more true when it comes to more complex movements.

#2 - Visualization of scratching while AWAY from your turntables. Progress of skills in sports has been shown to improve in studies where participants spent time thinking of their technique (scratching in your mind) rather than just rote exercise where you are just developing muscle memory and not actually developing an actual conceptual understanding of any technique.

#3 - Slow and steady wins the race...meaning start with your most comortable SLOW tempo beat you can cut to and only increase tempos if you can EASILY achieve a pattern/technique at your current tempo you are learning at. Speed comes over time...dont expect this to happen quickly...takes months/years and is always a constant battle of refinement.

#4 - NEVER compare yourself to others! Progress in any art is personal and the only person you need compare against yourself when it comes to progress is...YOU. Progress can halt or regress if studying/admiring others too often...make your goal to be better than the version of you last week/month/year. Some people have natural adeptness in learning or executing scratching...for example I'm left hand dominant on the record and have always had to work harder at fader speeds than control for this reason...but you may have a different path or level and that is PERFECTLY ok!

That's all for now...just try to keep it fun and progress will just seem like play rather than work and happen faster in the long run.
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#17 Karol

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 08:21 AM

Oh thanks a lot all of you! I do like the point no.4 I all to often comapre myself to other very talented DJ's who needed only a qouple of years to get on international level. I'd rather now focus only on my progression than think "oh why this guy becomes a champion in a few years and I'm even nowhere near in a half where he is now". ;)



#18 MadAbbott

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:09 AM

yeah, really nice tips Vet, thanks for sharing!



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Posted 25 April 2017 - 12:20 PM

From watching Pete and Sy cut, I'd also propose that you're possibly moving the fader long distances and that smaller movements will help speed you up.

 

I thought you scratched reverse at first because the fader spent so much time on the other side :p


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#20 Karol

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 03:08 PM

From watching Pete and Sy cut, I'd also propose that you're possibly moving the fader long distances and that smaller movements will help speed you up.

 

I thought you scratched reverse at first because the fader spent so much time on the other side :p

When I drop the sound I always have a habbit or puling the fader to the other band to cut out the beat. That's a bad habbit. I do it too often :d




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