danswift Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm actually looking forward to learning as I go along. The most important aspect of making tracks for me has always been a 'can I pull this off in a live situation' type of thing and as you know I record everything I do directly to the MD recorder or a tape deck,one take with no overdubs style. There's a real satisfaction from doing things that way which I suppose just stems from the fact that I was a musician who played live for years with a big emphasis on improvisation and the ability to switch things up and change direction if needed because when you're playing live and especially in front of an audience where there's no hiding place if you fuck things up,even more so if it's just yourself and an acoustic guitar for example..a situation I always found quite rewarding tbh..my own personal motto being a 'Be good or go home' type of mentality. I also was extremely fortunate to play music for many years with my brother,a guy who was truly talented but also a perfectionist and a bloody hard taskmaster at times but we pushed each other hard to become better musicians in every way,there was never any middle ground whenever I played with Dee..it was intense but it was the way we had to do it and I'm glad we did. The drawback to all of this is that if I'm recording a take with the sampler running live and I fuck it up or mis cue a pad then I'm literally having to start the track from the beginning again because there's no way to just drop back in to rectify the mistake I've just made which can be very frustrating at times. At the moment I'm working on some stuff that is pretty complex with a lot of changes of tempo and samples flying in all directions and tbh I'm getting to the stage where im gonna have to invest in another SP 404 in order to achieve what I'm setting out to do when it comes to composition. In the end it just makes a lot more sense really to stop being so stubborn and have the tools to edit things and map out and lay down the drums or arrangements properly for the type of tracks I'm making so the laptop and Ableton is the correct way forward I reckon. I'm not gonna be selling my soul in doing things this way which is how I was more or less looking at it and which was the wrong attitude I've come to realise now. The time was inevitably going to come where I could only take things so far,so to make the switch now is definitely the right thing to do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I think my first two year's worth of beats were each an excuse to learn something, wether that was new tools or random self imposed limitations. Whatever is was, every one had a background task. You're clearly on the same wavelength as what I was badly waffling about above. You don't have to change everything you're already doing. But as you say, the inability to edit the odd mis-step is just wasting precious time IMO. Likewise, I don't get too involved in the 'correct' sonics of a track... great for dancefloor impact and all that, but that's not me. Plus I mostly listen to old music where different track fill different frequencies in different ways or even not at all. But even saying that, I still want the finished thing to have some degree of overall balance/coherence - occasionally I listen to something on some different speakers say and one sound might be annoying dull or bright or whatever. Just being able to go in after the fact and spend 5 mins balancing out a mix or fix a real clanger is so valuable to me. Applied to you, I don't think that would rob from your musician's skills and work ethic either, just present your vision in the best possible way. Again, not neccesarily anything that applies to you, but I often feel production nerds and musicians could be a lot better off by learning a little of the other's skills. In fact maybe it does apply to you as you're really good example of these things succesfully colliding... Buy anyway, so many times I've heard music made on a computer that's technically outstanding and yet all I can think is this person wouldn't know a good tune, or riff or even chord if it bit them on the arse. Conversely, I lost count how many times I've encountered great musicians with a wealth of musical talent, who kill live shows but then produce the most sterile, dull album possible - pretty much always because they are only interested in being a musician and think if the music and lyrics are strong enough, nothing else matters. Bullshit. Pretty much all the old good music in existence in the history of recorded music is partnership between great musicians and the skills and techniques in the studio that captured and ultimately immortalised their vision. It's why record collectors fetishize certain labels and studios, they had the artists AND the sound.(sorry, tangent rant there... on what was already a thread tangent ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 3rd iPad inbound, they are taking over here !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 https://instagram.com/p/BffqlzqlABI http://sourcesofinsight.com/3-stages-cultivation/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 You bought Bruce Lee ?Bet thats a bit smelly !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Jimmy Smith taught Bruce Lee martial arts and Bruce Lee taught Jimmy Smith how to play the Hammond B-3 organ...allegedly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Jimmy Smith taught Bruce Lee martial arts and Brue Lee taught Jimmy Smith how to play the Hammond B-3 organ...allegedly.Gospel. Of course Jimmy wouldn't let Bruce see his draw bar positions #classicjimmy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 'The Way Of The Drawbar' & of course the absolute classic 'Enter The Drawbar' are two of my all time favourite movies funnily enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Jimmy never joked about his drawbars! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Grasshopper,when you snatch this draw bar setting from my hand it is time for you to leave. Or something like that anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHouse Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 This thread's not getting derailed at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 This thread's not getting derailed at all.I blame poor moderation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 WANKING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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danswift Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 ^^^^Beautiful. Is that really Peregrine Smith or is it just Bruce Falcon in disguise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Rock Well Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 It's a female kestrel, unless you want warning points? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutis Mayfield Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 You bought Bruce Lee ?Bet thats a bit smelly !!!I done it but when I tought him everything he needed I discard him.Then he stole my phrase but I let him since his abs were better than mine. :} 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHouse Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 It's female kestrel, unless you want warning points?It's Fidel Kestrel. And yes, I'm cool with the warning points...I need to up my street cred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswift Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm cool with the warning points.... Send in the birds.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Brand new Mixfader for £25, wanted one for ages but too tight to pay £80 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Holy fuck, this Mixfader arrived from germany, its not just brand new but fully sealed too, and it comes with the Mixfader case brand new aswell, all for the normal price of the case, and tthat included shipping !!!!I'm known as the ebay ninja, but even this one shocked me lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williepee Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Culmination of a few purchasesPDX 3000 mk2PDX 2000 mk2 proButton Box 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest petesasqwax Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I've been doing this wrong. This past summer I've sold: my last remaining 1210; a MicroBrute; Volca Keys; Beatstep Pro; Bastl Kastle ...and various other things. Since last posting here I've also sold a Minitaur, a Little Phatty and sold (and theb bought again - not the exact same one!) a Strymon El Capistan. Most of it has been financially motivated (who knew that leaving your job in favour of not getting a salary was a short-term pain scenario?) but genuinely it has been great to get rid of loads of things I just didn't need. My outboard set up currently is a Werkstatt which hooks up with Ableton via a QuNexus keyboard (shouts, Paul!), the El Cap and a Minibrute with an MF101 attached to it (MiniBroog FTMFW, yo!). In the past fortnight I've bought 2 dictaphones (damn you, Hainbach!) and an ancient Novation Remote 25 (because I needed a joystick for iVCS3) which thoroughly saved the day with Ableton on Sunday On a vicarious level: Ric gets the new version of the button box on Thursday to attach his 3000 (shouts again, Paul!) - shit is going to get stupid with that thing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Burglar Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I want that El Capistan. I actually have a dictophone (and could probably get more.) I was thinking about looking into using it as a tape echo but don't have time to eff with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexinoodle Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I wish somebody would buy all my shit, nobody is buying fuck all, anybody want an SP808 or an Electribe EMX1SD (Brand new actually, probably rare hahaha) or or or or, need to hit ebay again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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