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#1 Symatic

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 12:22 PM

UGHHHHHHH

 

I foolishly ordered a Rane 62 fader, forgetting they have different connectors (thanks Rane!)

 

it's got 4 pins and the old ones have 6 pins but it looks like they only use 4....

 

has anyone hacked these together before? I want to install this in my original TTM56.

 

I'm hoping if i connect the right connectors that it'll still work???

 

 


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#2 Symatic

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 12:24 PM

heres the original style connector:

 

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#3 dunknow

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:56 PM

Might be an adapter available, otherwise, I'd speak to Sennheiser spares

 

http://spares.sennheiser.co.uk/rane

 

They've always been helpful, when I've spoken to them



#4 DJ Rock Well

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 06:43 PM

Connection aside, is that the first generation of the 62 fader? I only ask because of black bit on the rails, although I don't know if the newest ones (3rd version that replaced the clear 2nd gen ones) is also black.



#5 Symatic

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 06:56 PM

I dunno what gen it is.... it was £30 so i just grabbed it

#6 ELGEE

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 07:22 PM

If thats a 4 pin fader will it go in a vestax mixer?
£30 is a steal, good work.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 09:28 PM

Apparently the timeline for Rane faders (56 onwards) goes:
Brown (56 & 57)
Black (First lot of 62s - they can develop hairline cracks and break)
Clear (Second lot of 62s)
White

My 56 and 57 both had the brown faders and my 62 had the clears, so I can confirm that much. I've never seen the black four pin model though.

#8 DJ Rock Well

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:01 PM

Oh ok, so black does mean first gen of the 62 and onwards faders. In that case I wouldn't bother working out how to connect it as it'll only be around for a month or so anyway :(

#9 Symatic

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 09:32 PM

dammit.... maybe i can bastardise it into working and get an infinity fader thing


would prob just be a line fader anyway



#10 DJ Rock Well

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:28 PM

Are you down a fader then?

#11 Symatic

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:13 PM

yeah - I got a 2nd ttm56 so its easier to do Lords shows and just to generally see me through the oncoming apocalypse.

thing is it came with a innofader in it and the original owner lost the old rane fader.

 

the inno cuts in really weirdly, like it has the same 3-step cut in that Ranes have, but its really noticable, like its a good couple of mm to get from off to on.... its just annoying and also innofaders are just more trouble than theyre worth in my opinion. especially in rane products, the amount of exta cables and insulation and adapters in there now is silly.

 

so i just wanna get it back to having normal rane faders all round.

 

if i can get this fader basterdised ill just stick it in the line fader i use the least, and if it breaks i'll pimp it into a infinity fader.....

 

I'd happily swap the inno pro for a OG rane fader but after my sterling review i can't imagine anyone being up for that.

 

I've just been looking for a normal OG rane fadr for feggin ages now so i guess i just got desperate when I bought this one haha


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:27 PM

I'd happily swap the inno pro for a OG rane fader but after my sterling review i can't imagine anyone being up for that.


So do the brown carrier faders not show up on eBay etc?

#13 rasteri

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:47 AM

I've never done this, but you could try building an adapter.

 

The pinout for the old style connector is :

 

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1 - VDD
2 - VSS
3 - Signal
4 - Signal
5 - VSS
6 - VDD

(you'll notice pins 4-6 are a mirror image of 1-3, this is so the connector can be plugged in either way round)

 

I believe the new style connector is :

1 - VDD
2 - VSS
3 - Signal
4 - Signal

Pin1 is on the right-hand-side of the pic Si posted.

I have no idea if they're interchangeable, but it couldn't hurt to try I suppose. Unless I'm wrong about these pinouts, haha.


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#14 Symatic

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:35 AM

Broke - no theyre hard to come by and there is no supplier since rane got taken over by inmusic.

Rasteri - i'll see if i can make an adapter from that, nice one for figuring it out!

#15 Jam Burglar

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:07 PM

What kind of newb puts an Innofader in a 56? 


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#16 Symatic

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:00 PM

He had it well early on i think, so maybe it seemed like a decent upgrade at the time...



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:32 AM

Although my 56 fader eventually needed a replacement carrier (still brown though), my 57 fader is still as good as the day I got it. The 62 is another story though, I never liked the stock standard clear carrier fader. It felt like a new mixer when I eventually put the Inno Pro 2 in there.

#18 Symatic

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:11 PM

could be the difference there - this mixer has a inno pro in there, so the original version i guess. maybe they made it better.... Tableturnsmore sorted inno pro 2 on his 62 but i remember it being a ball ache to set up and it seemed to suffer if the weather got cold....



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:38 PM

To give Innofader a tiny bit of credit where it's due, Paul's Pro2 in his Z2 is finally good.

But pretty much every prior incarnation of that fader in any mixer left me a bit cold. Definitely not as good at first as the hype suggested. And then there's the ball ache of setup, occasional recalibration, getting upset by temp and humidity.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:08 PM

I put one in my Rane 54 and it breathed new useful life into that mixer.  After initial calibration it was great (although I was never traveling with it).  I still wouldn't swap out a 56 fader for one.  A lot of people got carried away with the whole innofader thing.  To me it was a lot like putting a straight tonearm on a Techincs 1200, sacrificing tons of engineering for mixed results.


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